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have you ever been groped in public? please tell me your experiences if you want but mainly tell how you felt and react cause i need some psychological help last days :/
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
Victoriavipper
Yes I have been gropped I public.I hate it.Look but dont touch.I react badly.One example recently is when I was out dancing in a club with friends.Because it was hot I was wearing a bikini with bare feet.An asshole gropped my ass.I spun round and lashed out with my long nails.Clawed his face from hairline to jawline 8 long deep scratches.He bled like a stuck pig.

Another similar occasion out with my boyfriend I got my ass felt up by some idiot guy.I punched him to the ground and as he got up kicked him in the face.Knocked him out and broke his jaw and nose and knocked out his 4 front teeth.Paramedics called out.

I'm one of the lucky women in that I can defend myself.I have a third dan karate black belt.I'm also very tall and strong
annie616pop · 26-30, F
@tallpowerhouseblonde,

Please don’t bite my head off regarding the following observation. It is sincere.

I can fully understand your anger with being violated by a stranger and I also applaud your dedication to the martial arts to reach the rank of third dan.

My concern for you is the degree of anger and violence coming from a person such as yourself with advanced training in the martial arts.

Like you, I have trained in the martial arts for many years. I began when I was four years old and the training still continues. My background is from a military family who believe strongly in being skilled in self-defense. Just as strong as the development of skills to respond to situations of threat is the development of a calm inner center. A center that doesn’t respond from rage or fear and responds with doing only what is necessary to deal with the situation or accomplish a mission. This includes doing only what is necessary to neutralize the aggression. …or, when called for, dispatching the person with minimum pain or torment.

Don’t misunderstand, we are also trained to apply increments of coercion that lead to maiming but it is done with a purpose in mind and it is done with discretion. It is never done in the scenarios as you have written such as a social situation, especially where guys have been drinking. These guys are idiots acting on the impulses of a four year old. They are not worthy opponents in any sense of a warrior’s world.

It is hard I freely admit to develop a calm inner center and especially respond from this place if one is violated or sees others who are being victimized.

So why develop this patience or this ‘center’?

It is so that one’s journey in life is not awash from a place of emotional reaction. A person filled with rage, even if justified, ends up being as much a victim of violence. Carrying these feelings and memories within you as I see in your letter to Victoria….is corrosive to your soul or spirit. In the long run, from what I see, from examples of men and women coming home from several tours of duty overseas….it destroys them and their ability to love others. Please don’t let this happen to yourself.

I urge you to do whatever it takes to develop this center of peace and perhaps, if it is possible, one of compassion….even to those who don’t deserve it.
annie616pop · 26-30, F
@victoriavipper
A few years back while in prep school our coed class was spending a week in New York City going to museums, attending lectures at NYU, etc. Despite our protests we had to wear our uniforms which, for girls, consisted of a jacket, blouse, school tie and a pleated plaid skirt which most girls wore at mini skirt height at the mid-thigh including myself. We'd start off the day on the subway during commute hours which meant we were packed in like sardines. Usually, by the time we got aboard, all the seats were taken, so we were standing with an arm above our head hanging on to a support rail or ceiling strap. My boyfriend, who I had been dating exclusively for more than a year, usually stood behind me which was fun because we'd playfully sneak in a kiss or cop a feel as discreetly as we could otherwise we'd get busted by one of the faculty leaders.

On the morning of the third day the train was packed more than usual by attractive young men and women in business suits which I learned from overhearing conversation they were attending a conference on marketing technology. There was a considerable amount of jostling around as the train moved along. At one point I felt the comfortable presence of the length of my boyfriend's body pressed against my back. A couple of minutes into the ride I felt his hand glide up inside the back of my skirt to cup my bum through my panties. During the ride he fondled me to the point that left my knees weak, breathless and a degree of horniness that topped the charts. Thank goodness he stopped fondling me several exits before our stop or I would have been a mindless puddle of hormones. Arriving at our exit station we got off. I turned to him and said, "My God, baby, you've really gotten good at this petting business...I can't wait to get you alone as soon as we can manage it!" He looked at me as if I was crazy, then his eyes widened and a look of wonder filled his face and he said, "Annie, I didn't feel you up.......for most of the ride until the crowd thinned I was standing about a yard away from you!"

The shock of the realization that I had been groped by a stranger left me almost in a state of panic. You know, feeling dizzy, choked breathing, etc. It took the rest of the day for me to calm down from this. Eventually, I was able to put it into perspective with the rationalization that while I was certainly violated there was no actual harm done. In fact, in a weird way, while chatting with my girlfriends at our hotel, it led to a lot of speculation as to the identity of this stranger with a "slow hand". Don't worry, the experience didn't leave me or my friends hankering to be molested. Nonetheless we wondered....was he cute? And then it struck us all at once, “My God, maybe the reason the petting was so well done…it was by a woman!

Regarding your situation, Victoria, if you feel uneasy, anxious, or violated please get some counseling help. No person, regardless of gender, should receive the unwelcome touch of anyone and that includes people you know as well as strangers. Do whatever is necessary to regain your peace of mind…including enrolling in a self-defense course designed for women.

Best of luck to you.

😟
tallpowerhouseblonde · 36-40, F
Hankstone
They had drunk some alcohol.Been egged on by their friends it looked like.Maybe a dare to put hands on my ass.Anyone can look of course but dont invade personal territory.The idiot I clawed has permanent scars down his face now.My long nails are very strong and sharp
MrMeTheFirst · 31-35, M
Yes. Years ago. My first shop was in an bakery. An old lady, at least over seventy, asked me to come around and help her read the cake tags, so I did. Afterwards, as I turned to walk back behind the counter, she grabbed my ass. I was taken back for a moment, but kept it professional as sold her a cake. It felt a little wrong and a little funny I guess. Being a guy, I don't really feel objectified that often, so I guess that factored in to my being able to just laugh it off. I'd have preferred she didn't grab me, but at least I got a story to tell from it.
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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Yes, by both men and women. One gay man that was cutting my hair rubbed his erect penis on my back in the middle of the hair cut. I was not happy. I gave him a dirty look in the mirror and he stopped. He finished cutting my hair and I paid him, never to return to that salon.

But I've been fondled and pinched by men and women. I don't mind the women, as I am straight, but I don't appreciate the men doing it. But I don't fear for my safety.
HankStone · 61-69, M
TPHB
Look but don't touch applies to women who seem like they're inclined to fight back or make a fuss. Victoria here, is neither of those things.

Personal space is simply what you can defend. So you get as much as you need, and Victoria here doesn't get any, at all.
HankStone · 61-69, M
I don't know if you're going to get a response from the perspective of someone who was groped, but from the perspective of someone who has groped, I can tell you that the only trick is knowing which girls will put up with it.

It's not something most women will let happen. They'll put up a fuss and make a lot of noise. But the kind who will take it are easy to spot. There's just something in their body language and demeanor that screams victim.

The thing is, unlike you, most girls who will put up with it, will try to push hands away (however ineffectively) at first. The one's who are like you who don't even do that, well, it's almost a guys duty to see how much he can get from you.
HankStone · 61-69, M
Tallpowerhouseblonde would be a good example why most guys who like to eve tease pay attention to body language and demeanor before copping a quick feel.

@tphb, I'm guessing both of these idiots were drunk, yes?
kaf9292 · 80-89, M
By a woman who asked if she could feel my legs to see if they were as smooth as they looked. She started at my knee and felt up under my miniskirt until she felt my growing bulge. I should have asked for her telephone number.
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mathsman · 70-79, M
Groped by older guys in the cinema when I was 13/14.
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