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EnglishLitLover · 56-60, M
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EnglishLitLover · 56-60, M
Remember around 50million people did NOT vote to leave ....@Stephanieuk
Sharon · F
@EnglishLitLover Even those who did vote to leave don't seem to know what they want. Deal/No Deal? If a deal, what sort of deal?
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Sharon The main things I want to achieve are full governmental and parliamentary accountability, and escape from the future integrationist agenda of the EU. Those things are achieved by any form of exit.
The distinction between deals and no deal is, to some degree, a false one. Any deal will be partial, and will be followed by further negotiations, especially on future trading arrangements, which may or or may not be successful. Conversely, or rather similarly, a no deal exit would be followed by negotiations between the UK and the EU on all sorts of things, which again might or might not be successful. (In practice, I think a no deal exit is almost inconceivable, because the EU will always prevent it, as witnessed by the deal currently on the table.)
The distinction between deals and no deal is, to some degree, a false one. Any deal will be partial, and will be followed by further negotiations, especially on future trading arrangements, which may or or may not be successful. Conversely, or rather similarly, a no deal exit would be followed by negotiations between the UK and the EU on all sorts of things, which again might or might not be successful. (In practice, I think a no deal exit is almost inconceivable, because the EU will always prevent it, as witnessed by the deal currently on the table.)
Sharon · F
@MartinII [quote]I think a no deal exit is almost inconceivable, because the EU will always prevent it[/quote]
The EU can't prevent it. In fact, if any one of the members vetos another extension, we'll be out at the end of January deal or not. The only thing preventing us leaving is our own Government.
The EU can't prevent it. In fact, if any one of the members vetos another extension, we'll be out at the end of January deal or not. The only thing preventing us leaving is our own Government.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Sharon What I mean is, the EU will do its utmost either to agree a deal which the current British government and parliament will accept, or to endorse repeated requests for extensions of the Article 50 timetable so as to increase the chances of Brexit possibly being abandoned. As you say, a single member state could undermine that strategy (though EU discipline has been remarkably solid so far); or, just possibly, the EU collectively could change its policy. So almost, but not quite, inconceivable.