While we are on shit weirdos do. If you choose to sit in a lawn chair in your front yard instead of your backyard you're a weirdo.

@BlueVeins Fuck no they aren't. Need at least a 20 foot buffer between the sidewalk or road to be civilised and properly spaced.

@MethDozer just get some bushes if you're scared 💅

@BlueVeins still need and want the distance.

@MethDozer but all that extra space makes it hard to walk places 😫

@BlueVeins Front yards don't. Besides who wants anyone walking in front of their house anyways?

@MethDozer The people don't even have to be walking in front of your house for it to take up extra space; it's a simple geometric problem that applies regardless of how people move about. If each person requires more land, that leads to more spread out settlements, which leads to more distance between places we want to go.

@BlueVeins Awesome. That's perfect actually. Population density is a horrible thing.

@MethDozer 😔 i don't wanna have to drive everywhereeeee

@BlueVeins You don't. Shopping and recreation is always in a specific area of a neighborhood. You just go there for everything. Or ride a bike or motor scooter. Why you wouldn't want to drive boggles the mind but there's plenty of options that doesn't require people living on top of each other like farm and zoo animals.

@MethDozer why i wouldn't want to drive --

-very expensive
-annoying maintenance work
-horrible for the environment
-loud
-stressful
-draining
-unhealthy compared to walking or biking

and the situation you're describing is feasible if you have an optimally-zoned neighborhood, but even if that's the case, the amount of stores nearby is generally gonna increase with population density (with proper zoning) since those stores can only stay open if there are people who can go to them. And more stores -> more options ☀️

@BlueVeins Man, you should see how far people used to have to go to market in horse and buggy days.


Walking amongst the people is way more stressful,loud, and draining. Don't even get me started on the nightmare that is public transportarion.

@MethDozer Public transport can be annoying just 'cause of all the timing 'n' shit.

@BlueVeins and the proximity to the public. Horrible