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@UndeadPrivateer Eff that.

@Miram It's such a stupid argument. A drowned person has access to air when you take them out of the water but it doesn't help them any if you don't get the water out of their lungs. No different from having healthcare "accessable" but not actually affordable.

@UndeadPrivateer Quality healthcare isn't accessible currently to the majority of people. I am grateful for all that I have but I won't lie to myself and say others do too.

If it weren't for the nature of my profession, I'd be in waiting lists for months here in Canada just for a stupid scan. Because they don't want to increase the budget.

People die waiting. Here and elsewhere.

@Miram No different here in the states. Still haven't had my stomach seen to properly and still on that psych doc waiting list. 👌 [i]So accessable.[/i]

@Miram Yes, that's why we need to raise taxes to improve the system.

@SW-User Indeed. Raising taxes to make up the difference would be the smart move, medical shortfalls drag down an economy overall. The investment would be worth it, even just from a purely economic perspective without factoring in the humanitarian as well.

@SW-User It never and will never solve the problem alone.They paid about 40 billions dollars in the last decade specifically to solve the wait times and so very little progress. We have the fifth most expensive system in the world. What we need to do is spend smarter, we need to redirect lot of the budget to chronic illnesses instead of acute illnesses. Because it's people who have chronic illnesses that are stuck in waiting lists for days and months.

The costs of training gets increasingly higher every year, of course physicians will expect to be paid higher every year,the drug companies will continue raising the prices and restricting access to cheaper drugs, the hospitals aren't managed as best as they should be and there joint ventures for investors so there are profits here to, especially in labs and MRI equipment. And investors have a say in prices. the decision makers, the bureaucrats, the admins , the politicians, are all completely detached from the reality and the needs of patients. They don't plan healthcare, they didn't make any detailed evaluation to integrate solutions. They have data and they throw money at it.

@Miram Until you start carving into the ability for people to profiteer off the ills of others you're never going to fix the problem, and you're going to have a real hard time doing that without touching their income. Institutions restructure to follow the law as it is made to benefit the people, laws should not be restructured to follow the needs of institutions at the cost of people.

@UndeadPrivateer As a whole, they don't care about the benefit of the people. This system ensures their roles are needed and well paid for.

@Miram Exactly, that's why they need to be restructured and not catered to. Our current economic trajectory(as in globally, not even in specific countries) is simply not sustainable. The math just doesn't work, flat out. There's no getting around that, no matter how hard you try to cherry pick and look at the bright side of it.

@Miram The entire thing needs to be run by the government, top to bottom. When it comes to healthcare, I'm a full-on communist. No joint ventures, no investors, no nothing.

@SW-User I agree with that, honestly. I don't think there's any real logic behind privatizing medicine beyond pure profiteering.

@UndeadPrivateer I mean, if any public service is an essential one, it's healthcare.

@SW-User Indeed, no one's of much help when debilitated.