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Your Thoughts: Is Vladimir Putin's removal from power the only solution for ending the war in Ukraine?

Read this write up in Qurora...what do you think?

Tadeusz M.
Masters in International Relations, University of WarsawAuthor has 230 answers and 3.2M answer viewsUpdated Jan 1
There is one thing you need to realize: The main problem with this war is that in the eyes of many Russians Putin is not bad because he started the war but because he is losing it.


So, the answer depends what you mean by “ending the war” and by “removal from power”.

But generally, it may not even be the solution.

There is a strong argument that actually one of the worst things that may happen now is for Putin to lose power but for his clique to maintain it. That’s because it will give an easy way out both for Russia and the West while changing nothing in the longterm and possibly putting us in the same (or worse!) spot in few years.


In one sentence: It could offer a ceasefire with a new leader who plays a good guy but soon will capitalize politcally the anti-Western sentiment of the lost war. Except, this time Russia would be much better prepared.

There is a strong misconception of Putin as a madman who unilaterally started the war against Ukraine. Putin is top of many dogs and among those dogs the prevailing idea is that of anti-Westernism an the need of having Ukraine in Russian sphere of influence. That is also something that seems to be quite in line with the sentiment of the general Russian society.

One of the great peace mediators once said: Peace can only happen when both sides start to realize that there is more they can achieve by talks than by military means.


So, this is the first step. On the front it probably is happening already and will mature within the next 12 months.

But the next step, for peace to last, is for Russia and Russians to realize that military might is not a feasible tool to attain political goals in Europe in the XXIst century.

And for that to happen… Russia must go through some hardcore soulsearching. How exactly this occurs, nobody knows. Maybe removal of Putin is enough and the inner forces will start this process. But maybe Russia needs to lose in that war enough to redefine its interest and its role in the world. Or maybe something else.

Today, Western experts have big problem: it turned out that building European security architecture with Russia in it failed… but there is little interest in building it without Russia. As the latter would mean some kind of a new cold war.

History may remember Putin as a mad dictator, but he is not. He is part of the system and for the peace to last, the system must change, not just the one at the top of it.
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that war isnt going to end as long as we are sending billions and billions in weapons to Ukraine. You're welcome. I do feel bad for both the citizens of Ukraine and Russia as they are pawns in all of this.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush 'that war isnt going to end as long as we are sending billions and billions in weapons to Ukraine.'

So what's the alternative ?
okaybut · 56-60, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush Pawns in what way? Did not Russia invade Ukraine with its military? And did Ukraine not want to be invaded and conquered?
i asked some friends who were war protesters and they said that some peaceful protests and nonviolent negotiation was the way to go.
@okaybut Putin and Zelensky dont appear interested in negotiations, but only waging war on one another. and the Russian and Ukrainian people are caught in the middle of this.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@YourMomsSecretCrush Ukraine has pretty clear terms for negotiation. Russia gets to control Russian territory, and Ukraine gets to control Ukrainian territory, in accordance with the 1991 borders that all parties agreed upon at the time. Ukraine has shown no interest in waging war; in fact, they ceded territory in 2014 just to hit the pause button on Russia's invasion. But now Russia's invading further, so they don't have a choice in the matter.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@YourMomsSecretCrush peaceful protests and nonviolent negotiation

Because that would work so well against the waves of missiles from the russian terrorists.

Perhaps a strongly-worded letter objecting to the russian barbarians destroying schools and hospitals?

The russian gangsters use negotiation as a means of buying time and advantage until their next violation of any agreement and a renewal of their war crimes.

There will be no negotiation, however desperately the russians want to lure the West into such a pointless exercise.

The russians will be driven from every square centimetre of Ukraine's soil... or buried in it
@YourMomsSecretCrush Protests would make sense if the US was at war. But you’re free to protest in front of the nearest Russian consulate if you think that will help.
@LeopoldBloom @newjaninev2 @BlueVeins ........ in the end...... you have to meet force with force. i've said it my whole life, and liberals called me a Neanderthal. and now the same people who called me a brute, are proving my point. thanks.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@YourMomsSecretCrush putin and Zelensky are not 'waging war'.

putin lied, lied again, continued lying, and then invaded the sovereign democracy of Ukraine.

The russian criminals immediately set about murdering and raping Ukraine's men, women, children, and babies.

The russians have destroyed entire cities, including schools, apartment building, and hospitals.

The russians have abducted tens of thousands of Ukrainian children and sent them to russia as slaves to be 'adopted' by russians.

russia expresses outrage whenever Ukraine defends itself against these crimes... but russia has always tried to play the victim.

This time it won't work.

russia is finished.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@YourMomsSecretCrush It’s not going to end till the tunnels under Ukraine are cleared out and there are a lot of them. Used for all sorts of terrible things.
Peril · F
@YourMomsSecretCrush Zelensky is waging war on Putin? What a strange thing to say. Defending your country, within your own borders, from an invading force killing your people, is self defence, not waging war.
@Peril so, when you are attacked, just kill the other person. It’s self defense. Sounds good. 👍🏻
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@YourMomsSecretCrush The tunnels under Ukraine were being used for international human trafficking, harvesting organs in some of the children, smuggling drugs, and many other things. Nazis and Ukraine set it up. Needs to be taken down.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@YourMomsSecretCrush Yeah sort of like when Ukraine annihilated Russia in 2014 when they crossed the border. That is what happened, right?
@cherokeepatti yep, some of Ukraines most deadly forces are a bunch of Nazi far right lunatics. You won’t hear that in the main stream media though.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@YourMomsSecretCrush Damn, I wish we could send our Nazis off to die fighting the Russians, too.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@YourMomsSecretCrush 'Ukraines most deadly forces are a bunch of Nazi far right lunatics.'

Come on now , are we really still talking as if this is a legitimate observation ? It's Russian propaganda , pure and simple , and the only reason it is (was) being taken seriously in some quarters was because it was being amplified in the pro-Trump right wing ecosphere.

Any serious research will soon debunk this myth. Here's a short piece for easy consumption ;

https://lens.monash.edu/@politics-society/2022/08/19/1384992/much-azov-about-nothing-how-the-ukrainian-neo-nazis-canard-fooled-the-world

And , if you are really intent on finding some real Nazis , then try looking no further than the invaders. Google Dmitry Utkin and learn about the guy who founded Wagner , looking dashing with his SS tatoo on his neck. (https://www.respublica.lt/post/neonacizmas-rusijos-samdiniu-tarpe)

Or read about the neo-nazi Rusich battalion from St.Petersburg here ; https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-terrifying-neo-nazi-mercenaries-being-deployed-in-ukraine/

As the excellent monarsh piece concludes ;

'One doesn’t need to look far to know who the true “fascists” are in this war.'