Who said this anti-Martin Luther King statement?

Bumbles · 2025-09-22T17:53:54-04:00

Martin Luther King Jr. - Who said this anti-Martin Luther King statement? "Who was MLK? A myth has been created and it... (14 replies).

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"Who was MLK? A myth has been created and it has grown totally out of control," [Name] posted on [website] on Monday morning. "While he was alive most people disliked him, yet today he is the most honored, worshipped, even deified person of the 20th century Today we are going to tell the truth and explain how this myth was born."

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Theyitis · 36-40, M

I honestly don’t know who said it, if I had to guess I’d say Charlie Kirk.

I’m afraid to say this, but that statement’s actually mostly not wrong. I wouldn’t necessarily say most people disliked MLK while he was alive, but a whole lot of people sure did. And today we’ve turned him into this perfect, flawless, non-controversial, impotent, toothless, meaningless figure. That’s not what he was. He was an imperfect man. He cheated on his wife, and I think he plagiarized some of his papers at Boston University, off the top of my head. Lots of his followers were socialists and plenty of them were even communists. I still think he was an excellent leader and role model, but it’s absolutely okay to criticize him. By treating him like he was perfect we risk forgetting the important, controversial things that he stood for.

EBSVC · 36-40, T

@Theyitis A very centrist take

Bumbles · 56-60, M

@Theyitis I would offer the following; Kirk’s mission was not biography, which would have been fine. Hagiography is one version of someone, and should not be considered definitive. Kirk’s mission was character assassination, similar to someone who dismisses Jefferson for owning slaves.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@EBSVC I don’t see how you got “centrist” out of that. I don’t tend to think of centrists as being controversial, but I’m arguing that MLK was controversial and saying that I admire him for it. Anyway, simply recognizing that MLK was not above criticism shouldn’t really tell you anything about my political inclinations. I think that’s something that even people on the opposite end of the political spectrum to me should be able to agree on if they just stop and think about it, maybe crack open a book or two.

EBSVC · 36-40, T

@Theyitis I say that because to everyone except right wingers everything you said is both known and irrelevant to anything that matters

“Centrist” was the benefit of the doubt I offered

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@Bumbles So the quote does belong to Kirk? And basically he’s trying to imply that because “most people disliked” MLK while he was alive, that most people now should dislike him too?

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@EBSVC It may be known, but it’s easily forgotten, I think. It’s absolutely true that most people, liberals and conservatives, claim to love MLK and are even afraid to say anything critical about him. Hell, Most Republicans today take the opposite strategy to what Kirk did and try to claim MLK was on their side. Why are they able to do that? And why does anyone believe them when they make that claim? Because all most people know about MLK these days is “judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin.” The only people that’s controversial to are racists, and thankfully, though we’re trending in the wrong direction now thanks to President Trump, most people are still afraid to admit to being racists.

Bumbles · 56-60, M

@Theyitis Yup, Saint Kirk. Not sure what His Grace meant by the comment.

EBSVC · 36-40, T

@Theyitis I thinks it’s more that people on the left side of things care mostly about his advocacy for the liberation of black people and much less about his infidelity, or alcoholism (I’ve heard both of those for years)

When you bring it up people get very suspicious as to why you’re bringing it up

Because that’s done pretty much exclusively by racists trying to justify their racism without acknowledging their racism

Because most other people are only concerned with his civil rights advocacy

I don’t think you’re reading the situation correctly at all

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@EBSVC Don’t you see the danger in that? I mean I feel like I’ve already explained it a couple times.

Nobody is perfect. That is a core liberal (left) belief. We love imperfect people. It’s the conservatives that want American historical figures like MLK to be perfect, non-controversial, and meaningless, that way they can be used as infallible authority figures to keep the poor and middle classes in line.

EBSVC · 36-40, T

@Theyitis I know you’ve explained it

And I keep saying that what you’re worried about happening is not happening, not in this case

It is not the same thing at all as to what conservatives are doing

It does happen sometimes, sure

But that has nothing to do with anything related to Kirk and what he said

Reducing people to a single point is always a problem