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swirlie · F
Joe didn't want to come out of retirement to run for the Presidency anyway, but then he did it as a favor for Obama. Joe didn't do it for the country, he ran for the Presidency for Obama, it's as simple as that.

But then Joe didn't listen to Obama when he was asked to get off the stage 4 years in, which then led to Kamala's failed attempt at a forced Presidency in her last-minute takeover bid as a patriotic favor extended to the Democrats.

Kamala as Joe's VP was no more interested in running for President than Joe Biden was after he'd already retired from the Senate and from politics.

The US government has always been a gong-show as viewed by the rest of us out here in the 'real' free world who do not live in the USA. Where all this went off the rails for the USA in the first place was with Obama NOT having the good sense to NOT ask Joe Biden to come out of retirement and run for the Presidency against Trump in 2016.

It was Barack Obama who caused this American debacle, not Donald Trump, not Joe Biden and certainly not Kamala Harris.
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