What goes into USA allies' calculations?

I like many others in the world are seriously conflicted about Trump but I am going to compartmentalize it to the issue of Iran..

I for any number of good and valid reasons highly support the neutralization of the Islamic regime in Iran.. It's ultimately a very simple decision. If Iran developed nuclear weapons it would be untouchable and if you do not like the price of oil today, imagine what it would be if Iran controlled the entire oil shipping capability of the Persian Gulf? This is intolerable and unthinkable.. . More so exponentially than the cumulative evil this regime has already conducted in the region and inflicted upon its own people.. Degrading their political and economic and military capabilities and hopefully ending this regime - though this is far from determinate is in its own calculous desirable and worthwhile......

Now as to the rest of the world... I don't believe that anyone is going to step up and assist the USA in opening the straights of Hormuz despite it being clearly in every other nations interest to do so.. No other Nato nation will participate - indeed other than Israel I see no one else will help.. Israel has its hands busy clearing up Lebanon as well as striking Iran - a long distance for sorties ... The intelligence that they have is of incalculable value... its incredible and its actionable... Between Israel and America the value of results delivered for effort expended has been thus far miraculous.

The next steps are not determinate but it would be helpful if small arms and ammunition were made available to ordinary Iranians to allow them to over throw their captors who have rifles aimed at their heads..

It's not "treasonous" to anyone, by anyone.

You can commit treason only to your own nation, not others.

The factoring you define in your second paragraph is no less than what other governments should be, and presumably are, doing. They would not worry about the USA's internal politics though. They leave those to the Americans themselves to decide. Instead they are concerned with President Trump's international actions and statements.

Whether President Trump really is so forgetful, I cannot say, but he is likely seen world-wide as very inconsistent, illogical, ignorant, uncomprehending, undiplomatic and unreliable; a president who imagines he can order other countries about, grab their lands or leaders, and insult or even threaten them, even fellow-Americans, who stand up to him.


He latest, an ultimatum that if Iran does not stop attacking ships in the Persian Gulf he will order the US Military to destroy Iran's oil and gas plants, is utterly irresponsible. Iran replied as anyone could see they would: they would answer in kind. Ironically Trump has only just asked Israel not to attack Iran's oil industry. Perhaps he has forgotten that.

Mr. Trump is "Commander-in-Chief" of the USA's entire military; but "Mr." is a civilian politeness, he is a civilian politician, the C-in-C title is purely honorary and he has no military experience. I wonder what he would if the Pentagon turns round and tells him flat, "We are not going to be so stupid as to attack Iran's petroleum installation, Mr. President!".


He is a very dangerous man, as much a hazard to the world as much as, although in different ways, the Presidents of the Russian Federation, China and North Korea, the Prime Minister of Israel and the Supreme Leader of Iran. The main difference between Donald Trump and those others, except perhaps Benjamin Netanyahu, is that they understand very well what they are doing, and in consistent, carefully planned ways.



He does not even broadcast his comments and demands via Congress or any proper channels, but via his own social[?]-media site. Trump showed himself up again only yesterday, by celebrating a former FBI officer's death. No thought for the family. A genuine statesman would have expressed bland condolences or kept a decent silence.

That site's title is Truth... Curiously, the same, translated, as Russia's governrnment-run daily newspaper, Pravda.

The reason why no one is helping him because the war has no clear objectives and no one trusts Trump because he doesn't stick to his agreements . He breaks every promise and has neen threatening the free world non stop for a year. In addition he had been punishing his allies with tariffs and threatening invasion of NATO members

Right now, the world is calculating at several levels. First, on surviving the next two years to the next president..Second, whether that President will be JD Vance (and thats a whole other can of worms dealing with an authoritative regime) or more "Business as usual" with a democrat regime still trying to limp along under horrendous foreign debt.. Or, a world disentangling itself from America, as Canada and other nations seem to be doing now, disengaging on foreign policy where they once travelled in lock step.. Of course, all this will be complicated by American strangle hold on global trade being broken and the reserve currency status fading away. America is even proving ineffective playing its strongest card. The military might one.. But in the end it will be the debt that gets it...😷

You not only hit the nail on the head. You knocked it right thru the board!

Recently we all had to admit that the USA can't and never intended to protect anyone. They're recalculating in Japan, Saudi Arabia, the GCC, South Korea, and the USA. We're all always under attack.

Why should they help? In the past our "allies" would often sit back and let the U.S. do all the heavy lifting for them, and they get the benefits.

Probably nothing in particular.

Canada has always equated living next door to the USA as being like crawling into bed with an elephant that comes home drunk each night.

From Canada's perspective, it was a no-brainer for Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney who was the very first Nation to respond to Trump's pitiful plea for military assistance in Iran, when he publicly announced to Trump and to the USA straight out of the gate, that Canada will not be participating in America's invasion of Iran. The End. 🇨🇦

America First is an aggressive nationalist policy. It is now dawning upon the world that it is incompatible with international cooperation.