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As commander in chief of the military Is Trump held to the same standard as Kelly?

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth accused Kelly (a 20 year veteran of military service) of violating a federal law that prohibits undermining [b]good order and discipline within the military and accused him of hiding behind his position as a U.S. senator to do so[/b].
In response DJT, in his second term BTW, is in supreme command (as COMMANDER IN CHIEF) over the military.
Whereas, Kelly has the esteem of having served in active status for 20 years; with distinctions. Trump has the distinction of dodging the draft, never serving, and then going golfing with active “shin splints”.

Kelly’s oath of duty requires him to refuse unlawful orders; even from the president himself. Trump took a similar oath as president to uphold the constitution and its principles.
Therefore whereas the president currently IS violating federal law by “undermining good order and discipline” IN AMERICA AND within the military” (albeit “civilian” police and “civilian military” (the national guard); in both often veterans themselves) as well as morals and established precedent. We MUST expect and enforce DJT upholding under the same oath to preserve “good order and discipline” while NOT shielding himself (TRUMP ) behind his “office as U.S president” under the same. [/b]
As COMMANDER IN CHIEF
Mr. Trump must be held to the same standard if Mr. Kelly is. Especially when he THE PRESIDENT is giving the orders which “undermine GOOD ORDER & DISCIPLINE”.
Is it about time to oust MR. TRUMP?, whom as COMMANDER IN CHIEF is beholden to the same OATH!
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Northwest · M
A federal judge on Tuesday expressed skepticism over the Pentagon's effort to downgrade the pay and rank of Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona after he publicly urged service members not to follow unlawful military orders.

In a 45-minute court hearing on Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon appeared concerned by the Justice Department's arguments that the speech limitations customarily imposed on active-duty military officers to promote discipline and obedience was being extended to include retired service members like Kelly.

"That's never been done," Leon told Justice Department attorney John Bailey, adding that the government did not have a single case to support the argument.
specman · 51-55, M
I believe that he can’t be sued for any executive duties, BUT
I don’t think other actions besides lawsuits that he could be held accountable to. Although some of his actions are considered constitutional depending on how one interprets it I guess. We have to let the Supreme Court decide what is and what isn’t constitutional.
jehova · 36-40, M
You’ll notice many previous presidents have spoken out against TRUMP’S actions because they are beholden to that same OATH of OFFICE far after no longer being in and holding that office. Therefore despite TRUMP not repeating the OATH during his second swearing in ceremony; instead pleading, “no comment” when asked to do so; he is FOREVER beholden to it FOR LIFE because he took that same oath when entering his first term.
@jehova Don't you need to uphold Constitution??

jehova · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues preserve is synonymous to uphold
jehova · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues to preserve- maintain (something) in its original or existing state.
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jehova · 36-40, M
@jshm2 therefore bc there IS something wrong with what DJT said the same standard MUST now be applied
tRump is never held to any standards.

Meanwhile, Hegseth decides that the DoD doesn't want any service members smart enough to attend ivy league schools!!

Hegseth announced that the Pentagon will end all military training, fellowships, and certificate programs with Harvard University starting in the 2026-27 academic year.

Hegseth indicated that the Pentagon will evaluate "all existing graduate programs for active-duty service members at all Ivy League universities and other civilian universities" to determine if they offer cost-effective, non-ideological, and strategic education compared to military or public universities.
A lightning bolt beyond all imagining to the White House is long past due. He is the destroyer all the movies have been warning about for so long.

Astonishingly, nobody seems to recognize it. It is the most confusing thing I’e ever seen.
jehova · 36-40, M
Therefore TRUMP must be impeached for dereliction of DUTY and breaking his OATH to the CONSTITUTION. full Stop. Or face execution for his HIGH CRIMES?
Breaking a sworn oath is perjury (a felony) not only a “HIGH MISDEMEANOR”
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Rack it up as another spectacular loss by trump & Co.

 
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