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Royrogers · 61-69, M
Bit like Starmer, comes all how dare trump say that then pushes a law through removing legal immunity for uk soldiers that have served and veterans can be prosecuted for doing thier duty while NI terrorists go fee
Royrogers · 61-69, M
I don’t think we can excuse a prime minister of no involvement if his party tries or does pass legislation so NI troubles veterans can be prosecuted
Royrogers · 61-69, M
As in going through parliament voted the commons
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers OK. I've done a bit of homework, because I am obviously a out of date. I read in several places that MPs have voted through some legislation to remove some immunity from prosecution. I cannot find an attack on soldiers from Starmer on the egregious level just witnessed from Trump. In fact I can find no words from him in that vein. Your understandable ire is with the current Parliament which has passed the law which you don't like.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
And not terrorists
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers That is your interpretation of the sutuation. There were genuine war criminals among the British special forces in Afghanistan who abused and murdered unarmed citizens. Some of their superiors showed deplorable leadership in convering up or not reporting their crimes. This created a human rights nightmare and is the context i which the current legislation has become necessary. In my opinion, blanket immunity from prosecution should be used very sparingly. Dividing people into "goodies" and "baddies" perpetuated The Troubles for far too long. The current peace process is based around truth and reconciliation.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl interesting use of the term reconciliation when known terrorists are walking free and those sent to maintain peace were shot at by terrorists among civilians
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers Well you are entitled to your opinion. I am simply providing the context to this proposed legislation. Given the s**tstorm going on in Minnesota right now, I would have thought the argument against blanket immunity for any group of government employees is blindingly obvious.
However imperfect the current peace process in NI, it has saved thousands of lives since 1997 and allowed a shattered region to rebuild itself. It has been far more successful than the hardline pursued by Thatcher in the 1980s.
However imperfect the current peace process in NI, it has saved thousands of lives since 1997 and allowed a shattered region to rebuild itself. It has been far more successful than the hardline pursued by Thatcher in the 1980s.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl as you say you are entitled to your opinion. I am aware through official sources that the IRA still pose a significant terrorist threat. I also do not accept it as justice when known terrorists are allowed to escape justice and those who were shot at by those terrorists, from among civilians, are prosecuted for doing their duty. The illusion to the situation in America is not relevant nor comparable to what our armed forces had to put up with in NI. If you get the chance ask someone who served in NI how the different communities behaved towards the soldiers. The filth thrown at them from amongst crowds and above. But their orders were not to respond.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers My uncle did a tour of duty in Ulster in 1987-8 during Thatcher's "no surrender" phase (after the Brighton hotel bombing). The lack of consensual soldiering and refusal to compromise endangered the lives of British service personnel. My father and mother served 23 and 18 years respectively in the Royal Navy. One thing I know from growing up in a service environment is that there are bad apples in every outfit. If you give them unqualified immunity from prosecution they will commit crimes.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl agreed although seperate from the situation in NI







