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Trump insulting brave British Forces

Some of my family friends died in Afghanistan and more suffered life changing injuries.
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Royrogers · 61-69, M
Bit like Starmer, comes all how dare trump say that then pushes a law through removing legal immunity for uk soldiers that have served and veterans can be prosecuted for doing thier duty while NI terrorists go fee
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers I thought that had been reversed and that there would be no more such prosecutions. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK it was recently but I read it had been voted through parliament
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers I think the acquittal of the last soldier to be prosecuted in NI fairly recently marked the end. I am not sure of Starmer's personal role in any of it: the initial prosecution or the decision to end any further ones, but the latter happened while he was PM.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK just checked and it is said our wonderful government who are anti uk forces are pushing legislation through parliament as of January this year
Royrogers · 61-69, M
I don’t think we can excuse a prime minister of no involvement if his party tries or does pass legislation so NI troubles veterans can be prosecuted
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers When was that passed? Aren't we talking some time ago? Before the current government took office?
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK January 2026
Royrogers · 61-69, M
As in going through parliament voted the commons
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers OK. I've done a bit of homework, because I am obviously a out of date. I read in several places that MPs have voted through some legislation to remove some immunity from prosecution. I cannot find an attack on soldiers from Starmer on the egregious level just witnessed from Trump. In fact I can find no words from him in that vein. Your understandable ire is with the current Parliament which has passed the law which you don't like.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK no it with starmer who our prime minister. It is his party he leads it
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers As you will.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK you do yourself a disservice. You appear to not hold this prime minister responsible for the legislation his party puts through parliament and you clearly see nothing wrong in prosecuting veterans while terrorists walk free
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers I do not agree with anyone breaking the law and not facing the consequences. As I read elsewhere: soldiers should be protected by the law and subject to it.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK it appears you are a labour supporter who is happy to see terrorists walk free and not be subject to the law as well. A typical deluded labour supporter
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers It appears that you have (deliberately?) misread what I wrote. I do not agree with ANYONE breaking the law. For clarity, that includes terrorists. All should be held to account.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK but you do not disagree with only our veterans being hounded
Royrogers · 61-69, M
And not terrorists
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Royrogers We're going round in circles. 'ALL should be held to account.' How many different ways do want it said?
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers That is your interpretation of the sutuation. There were genuine war criminals among the British special forces in Afghanistan who abused and murdered unarmed citizens. Some of their superiors showed deplorable leadership in convering up or not reporting their crimes. This created a human rights nightmare and is the context i which the current legislation has become necessary. In my opinion, blanket immunity from prosecution should be used very sparingly. Dividing people into "goodies" and "baddies" perpetuated The Troubles for far too long. The current peace process is based around truth and reconciliation.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl interesting use of the term reconciliation when known terrorists are walking free and those sent to maintain peace were shot at by terrorists among civilians
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers Well you are entitled to your opinion. I am simply providing the context to this proposed legislation. Given the s**tstorm going on in Minnesota right now, I would have thought the argument against blanket immunity for any group of government employees is blindingly obvious.

However imperfect the current peace process in NI, it has saved thousands of lives since 1997 and allowed a shattered region to rebuild itself. It has been far more successful than the hardline pursued by Thatcher in the 1980s.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl as you say you are entitled to your opinion. I am aware through official sources that the IRA still pose a significant terrorist threat. I also do not accept it as justice when known terrorists are allowed to escape justice and those who were shot at by those terrorists, from among civilians, are prosecuted for doing their duty. The illusion to the situation in America is not relevant nor comparable to what our armed forces had to put up with in NI. If you get the chance ask someone who served in NI how the different communities behaved towards the soldiers. The filth thrown at them from amongst crowds and above. But their orders were not to respond.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Royrogers My uncle did a tour of duty in Ulster in 1987-8 during Thatcher's "no surrender" phase (after the Brighton hotel bombing). The lack of consensual soldiering and refusal to compromise endangered the lives of British service personnel. My father and mother served 23 and 18 years respectively in the Royal Navy. One thing I know from growing up in a service environment is that there are bad apples in every outfit. If you give them unqualified immunity from prosecution they will commit crimes.
Royrogers · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl agreed although seperate from the situation in NI
Bill67 · 56-60, M
@Royrogers bloody Sunday?