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Why Trump matters- the big picture

David Frum just nailed it, IMO:

The American system depends upon public understanding that law is bigger than politics, that right and wrong exist independent of who screws whom. Trump’s life and career are based on discrediting the distinction between right and wrong, and on convincing himself and others that the only reality is who screws whom. As of right now, he’s winning that messaging debate, regardless of what happens to him personally.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/08/trump-bolton-sending-message/683997/

Trump sounds like a populist, but in practice he doesn't actually serve up much "for the people" other than for those members of the people who want to see real and symbolic suffering and bloodshed. That's the circus, and he just loves how popular it is to throw his enemies to the lions and watch the crowd go wild with glee.

Sure, he promises bread as well, but it's usually crumbs, with the actual grain and a piece of the bakers' fees going back to him and to those who can give him something in return.

Granted, Frum doesn't go far enough, imo, in talking about the consequences of Trump "winning.". He does talk about the aftermath of the Civil War, but I think that Reconstruction and even Jim Crow may pale in terms of the consequences of Trump's war on ethics, morality, natural and political science.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
I am not convinced he is really winning on messaging. His message seems worn-out (he's been using the same one for at least 10 years), his delivery is off (possibly due to the effect of his noticeable aging), and his greed is becoming unmasked as the volume of his face makeup increases.

As he promotes his petty retributions, he is going against loudmouth fighters aligned with both parties (Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, Chris Christie, John Bolton, Joe Rogan, etc.) who are capable, willing, and have the platforms to challenge his message.

He shouldn't be underestimated for his assault on human decency and American ideals, but his magnetism is wearing thin... especially as "the base" starts feeling like they are the ones who are getting owned.
TexChik · F
I am sure in your deranged socialist mind, you think it's horrible that people can now walk around in DC and not be shot at, robbed, or murdered. People feel safe now in DC! That has not happened in a long time. Also, the homeless encampments have been removed, the homeless are either in shelters or receiving mental health care, and all get three meals a day. Those are consequences of Trump winning.

7 wars ending with peaceful negotiations? Those are consequences of Trump winning. As was
destroying Iran's (the world's state sponsor of terrorism) ability to make and use nuclear weapons. The stock market, tariffs, and ending the two-tier justice system. The safest border in US history. Catching and stopping corrupt waste, fraud, and abuse is also a Trump perk.

Is it that you are afraid people might begin to understand that socialists in government stand for criminals and illegals, and that they do not represent Americans?

Many of Trump's enemies are enemies of the state and deserve to suffer a traitor's fate. Again, another consequence of Trump winning.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
Indeed. Trumpism is more significant than the Civil War in terms of the impact on the history of America.
Vin53 · M
He cheats at golf on nat'l tv. He has no shame, no honor, no dignity, no scruples, no morals and no human decency.
If he was a pest he'd have been terminated years ago.

 
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