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Do you think one day Donald Trump will be sorry he didn't resign?

The January 6th committee spent almost a year gathering information about the attack on the capital and they likely found enough to put Trump in jail and have him go down in history as a traitor. If Trump had resigned they would not of looked for all that info and Trump's final story would be different. Cheers!
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helenS · 36-40, F
As an outsider looking in, I think things have become so toxic in the US that even violent and murderous attacks on the American democracy will not be seriously prosecuted.
A person who sent his violent thugs to storm the US Capitol committed high treason, and should spend the rest of his life in jail. But that won't happen. In fact I think this is one of the few cases where death penalty is warranted.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@helenS He's wealthy enough to have as many "get out of jail free" cards as he pleases, independently from the political climate.
@helenS Sadly, I don’t think you’re wrong. People seem okay with things now that they’d never have admitted finding acceptable before.

On a totally unrelated topic, what are the immigration policies like where you are ? 😅
helenS · 36-40, F
@Elessar There's something wrong with a country where a man gets away with anything he wants just because he's rich. Nobody is above the law, or should be.
helenS · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard American immigrants are most welcome in Europe! 😏
Elessar · 26-30, M
@bijouxbroussard You're asking out of curiosity or out of interest? 😅 It's a bit of a cloudy situation because it tends to vary depending on whatever the governing majority will do, restricting immigration here is a major talking point of the right (but I would guess not from the US). In the latter case I wouldn't suggest my place because there isn't a single poll that doesn't project the (far) right from having the numbers to govern in the upcoming next year elections (short or some significant event, and knowing the dynamics here nothing is to be excluded until the very end).

@helenS Well, they're in good company as a country, I fear.
Carissimi · F
As you say, you are an outsider, and have no clue what you are talking about. @helenS
helenS · 36-40, F
@Carissimi Yes that may be true. On the other hand, it's sometimes easier for outsiders to look at things sine ira et studio (without anger and passion).
Elessar · 26-30, M
@helenS Unfortunately, in what concerns international politics at least, the butterfly effect is very real. I don't think there's really a concept of "outsiders" , what happens there has very tangible effects over here too, and to some degree also viceversa.
Carazaa · F
@Elessar And he is not rich. He has no money. He is in debt and never pays back what he borrows.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Carazaa So much for your much vaunted "love your enemies" schtick. You hate Trump so badly you can't even be honest.
Carazaa · F
@Elessar
Today Trumps former finance Director Hanna Alldred testified that after Biden won and all his own appointed closest advisors told him there was no fraud he collected 1/4 BILLION Dollars in campaign funds from sitizens who believed his lies! OH MY GOSH!!!

The truth comes out and justice is served!
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Carazaa He's literally a billionaire. The fact he's disastrous at administrating his wealth doesn't make said wealth inexistent. He has so much that he can f*ck up all the time and still have enough to f*ck up again later on. Someone who's not rich doesn't own skyscrapers, businesses, let alone having any chance at campaigning and running for presidency.

It's good that his wrongdoings come to the light, but personally I don't think anything is going to happen as a consequence of this trial. It's just public show. Hoping to be proven wrong but realistically speaking I know it won't happen.
Carazaa · F
@Elessar He literally lied to steal 1/4 BILLION Dollars from people when he knew he had lost! That is a crime!
Carazaa · F
Here are some hearing facts today on 6/13/2022 and testifying by Trumps own appointed officials!

They said he knew he had lost the election because All his own closest political advisors told him so.
And today Hannah Allfred Trumps finance advisor testified that 1/4 Billion dollars were collected from public donations for campaign money After Biden won, even though Trump knew from his own advisors that there had been NO fraud. (See what his own advisors said in the hearing today)

Former Republican attorney General, William Barr
" I told him there was no fraud, I told him, its bullshit, and I thought he had lost touch with reality"

Former Attorney General Richard Donoghue
"fraud was not supported by any evidence"

His own lawyer and campaign advisor, Republican Alex Cannon said
" there was no evidence of voter fraud"

Fox own political News Director, Chris Stirewal was under fire from Trump when he said "Biden won in Arizona".

Republican appointed by Trump, Mr. Pak
"All claims by Juliano were false" (Rudy Juliano has a suspended license in Washington DC highest court, due to his false and misleading statements and pending the formal hearing.

Mark Esper "Trump was underminding the election results"

Republican Ben kingsberg "No evidence of fraud"

Defense Secretary, Al Schmidt testified that his refusal to back Trump led to aggression towards Schmit and his family
And "Trump referred to me as Rhino"
@Elessar @hippyjoe1955
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Carazaa I've read about that, I've been following. But again, I think little of nothing will change in the political scenario after this; glad to be proven wrong by facts, but not holding my hopes too high here.
Carazaa · F
@Elessar
Truth is important to me. Love is important. And it hurts that this country was so deceived by Satan. I knew it all along, because every day I read my Bible and anything that is not loving is not of God, it is of Satan!
Carazaa · F
@hippyjoe1955
Do you know what I hate? Innocent people working hard giving a 1/4 Billion Dollars to a liar who knew he lost!
Carazaa · F
@helenS Eventually justice is served, because that is how God works.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Carazaa Your hatred is overwhelming. Amazing. For someone who is on here everyday telling everyone else to love or else you don't seem to have a lot of love in you. Sadly you are so misinformed about American politics and culture as to be little more than a joke. The extreme right wing you so self righteously decry were normal people a few decades ago. They didn't move right. The entire culture moved extreme left. Trump didn't lose the election. The globalists installed Biden through voter fraud. That you are ignorant of that tells me that you are incapable of introspection and meditation. You simply believe what ever the leftist press tells you. I am very certain that you would be comfortable with a leader such as Hitler. Maybe spend a few days praying for insight rather than assuming others are wrong. Yours truly is a twisted and warped 'Christianity'.
helenS · 36-40, F
@hippyjoe1955 You are stuck in a cul-de-sac, Joe. May a light shine into the darkness, to help you find a way out. 🌷
Carazaa · F
@helenS God bless you 🌹
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@helenS I bet that makes more sense in your mind than it does on SW. Let's put Trump completely aside. Do you want to live in a country where elections are pure shams and the 'leader' is simply imposed by fraudulent elections? Remember Stalin's famous quip? It is not who votes that counts it is who counts the vote. The fact is the 2020 presidential election was just such a case. They wouldn't even allow scrutineers in to examine the ballots. The machines were connected to the internet and were hackable. Those are the facts. The US is no longer the land of the free. it is now the land of the fraud.
Imsleepy · 31-35
You know that little disclaimer YouTube puts at the bottom of blatantly untrue videos? SW needs to put one of those at the end of everything you post. @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Imsleepy So you prefer CNN? Seriously?????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Imsleepy · 31-35
How did you gather that from what I posted? I don’t watch CNN. @hippyjoe1955