Hmm, apparently the Committee has shown that a significant number of House Republicans wanted presidential pardons from Trump...

Well well...this appears to show, at least, that significant numbers of House Republicans (of whom Scott Perry is the only one named so far) knew they had been involved in illegal conduct of some sort.

It also lends weight to the theory that Trump and the Republicans really were planning a coup, and that they knew that the election fraud claims were baseless. After all, why would you need pardons if you were only raising legitimate questions about the election?

Dear oh dear, Trumpy boy!😎

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windinhishair · 61-69, M

You can only be pardoned for crimes you admit committing.

SomeMichGuy · M

@windinhishair Yeah I don't think you can grant a pardon when there is no conviction, for one, and pre-pardoning esp. one's confederates strikes at the heart of the rule of law, even if pre-pardoning can be done.

And when ppl make a plea deal, you have to "allocute", i.e., perform a recitation of your crimes, before a judge, in open court (former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick did this for Federal & State charges). The form of allocution in Federal &--at least in Michigan, but (presumably) most States tie down the same issues--State courts has a form which requires a series of questions of the accused, by the judge which make sure that the accused

• is not under the influence of any substance,
• is not under any threat of force, harm, or other compulsion,
• is not doing this due to some additional offer from a third party,
• is doing this entirely of his/her own free will.

The allocution is supposed to conform to the testimonial oath of telling the FULL truth, and typically seems to include timelines, and specific mentions of specific crimes, of course.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@SomeMichGuy Having his co-conspirators admit their guilt may be why Trump did not grant pardons. He gladly threw them under the bus so he can continue to spout the Big Lie.