Why do the same people who claim guns make the life safer ban those same guns from their meetings ?
like Trump is holding a rally at the NRA and guns are banned there... wouldnt it be much safer if everyone in the audiennce carried an AR-15 ?
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wildbill83 路 36-40, M
and yet... every time there is a shooting in a "gun free zone", or in a European country where civilian gun ownership is banned; you rely on a cop, with a gun, to protect you... (when you're not accusing them of being corrupt and/or demanding that they be defunded...)
perhaps things would be better if a bunch of unarmed idiots like ya'll charged the attacker instead.... 馃ぃ
perhaps things would be better if a bunch of unarmed idiots like ya'll charged the attacker instead.... 馃ぃ
Alfarrobas 路 31-35, M
@wildbill83 civilian gun ownerships isn't ban. You need a licence for it, mostly people have an hunting licence to own a gun because people hunt. And the guns that are used for hunting are... hunting weapons. Outside that, there are many checks to see if a person can have a gun, have the proper credentials to own a gun, can afford a gun, and if they have any medical thing that could mean that the person is a danger for... Well... no gun.
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Ryannnnnn 路 31-35, M
@wildbill83 Yeah but we also have barely any gun related deaths and they're all drug gang related directed at eachother as ammunition is hard to get. You can run from someone with a knife and it's not as common as some people are led to believe. The police with guns are just deployed for particular situations and they rarely ever have to actually use them.
Problem with civs having guns is that they're more readily available to go missing, be bought for another person, and circulate amongst other people in general.
Problem with civs having guns is that they're more readily available to go missing, be bought for another person, and circulate amongst other people in general.
HoraceGreenley 路 56-60, M
@Alfarrobas those aren't automatic weapons. This us like talking about sex with a virgin.
wildbill83 路 36-40, M
@Ryannnnnn [quote]barely any gun related deaths[/quote]
and yet, you still have plenty of non-gun related deaths (like stabbings).
what is with this concept that murder with a firearm is more murderous than a murder without a firearm?
do murder victims only count when they were murdered with a firearm, but they're completely irrelevant when murdered by any other means?
Do murder victims over there feel the same way in the process of being murdered? Like "Oh, I might've been raped, tortured, etc. and I'm about to have my brains bashed in with a cricket bat... but at least I'm not being murdered with a firearm".... 馃
and yet, you still have plenty of non-gun related deaths (like stabbings).
what is with this concept that murder with a firearm is more murderous than a murder without a firearm?
do murder victims only count when they were murdered with a firearm, but they're completely irrelevant when murdered by any other means?
Do murder victims over there feel the same way in the process of being murdered? Like "Oh, I might've been raped, tortured, etc. and I'm about to have my brains bashed in with a cricket bat... but at least I'm not being murdered with a firearm".... 馃
HoraceGreenley 路 56-60, M
@Ryannnnnn @wildbill83 Both the Harvard Gun Study and the UN gun study concluded that places with the highest levels of private gun ownership have the lowest levels of violent crime.
Both studies were world wide.
Neither organization could be characterizrd as pro-gun
Both studies were world wide.
Neither organization could be characterizrd as pro-gun
wildbill83 路 36-40, M
@HoraceGreenley We should conduct a social experiment... Lets take a particular country, and completely eliminate all firearm possession from anyone; civilian, police, and military alike; put up "gun free zone" signs all around their borders; and make any kind of outside interference illegal...
OOOoooo.... I know, lets use Ukraine for this study... 馃
OOOoooo.... I know, lets use Ukraine for this study... 馃
HoraceGreenley 路 56-60, M
@wildbill83 Yeah...its been done and violent crime is off the charts