I Support Donald Trump
Can any of you well educated people explain you’re hate for trump without sounding like an emotional wreck? Try putting some logic and thought into it.
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ineedadrink · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard This reply is a symptom of the stupidity & vileness poisoning society these days. No logic attempted, just an overbearing and self righteous attitude. You're ushering in another four years of Trump, I'm sorry to say.
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@ineedadrink the left’s behavior is the rights biggest weapon
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MistressOfEvil · 31-35, F
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They had no evidence, they had nothing. They were wrongly accused. Any person who calls the death penalty on a group of 13-16 year old boys, and then refuses to apologize even after they were found not guilty, is not a person I would never want to run this country. It’s sickening.
They had no evidence, they had nothing. They were wrongly accused. Any person who calls the death penalty on a group of 13-16 year old boys, and then refuses to apologize even after they were found not guilty, is not a person I would never want to run this country. It’s sickening.
MistressOfEvil · 31-35, F
And if that still ain’t enough. There’s more.
Speaking to Time magazine in January 1989, Trump was asked to give an estimate of his wealth.
And his response was this:
“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked, using a racial slur for the Japanese.
And as for his treatment of woman:
In a New York magazine published in November 1992, a year after Trump divorced his first wife. Trump was quoted talking of his wisdom about how you should handle woman.
“You have to treat ’em like shit,” Trump said to a friend, Philip Johnson, who responded with: “You’d make a good mafioso.”
Trump’s response to that, “One of the greatest.”
Speaking to Time magazine in January 1989, Trump was asked to give an estimate of his wealth.
And his response was this:
“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked, using a racial slur for the Japanese.
And as for his treatment of woman:
In a New York magazine published in November 1992, a year after Trump divorced his first wife. Trump was quoted talking of his wisdom about how you should handle woman.
“You have to treat ’em like shit,” Trump said to a friend, Philip Johnson, who responded with: “You’d make a good mafioso.”
Trump’s response to that, “One of the greatest.”
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They had no evidence, they had nothing. They were wrongly accused. Any person who calls the death penalty on a group of 13-16 year old boys, and then refuses to apologize even after they were found not guilty, is not a person I would never want to run this country. It’s sickening.
how is any of that racist? Is that just a word used to to belittle someone when you can’t throughly explain yourself? @MistressOfEvil
BiasForAction · M
Your question is loaded with presumptions and insults. Despite the bias inherent in your question, I shall answer. I expect those who support Trump will respond to my post with insults -- because that is all they got.
First, a clarification--I do not hate Trump--but i do not support his "leadership".
i would prefer that a US President not degrade women, immigrants, people of color, handicapped people, other candidates for elected office, and avoid praising dictators who murder and constrain the rights of their people. It is difficult for me to just consider his policies on their merits when the values he embodies as a human being are so contrary to my own.
First, a clarification--I do not hate Trump--but i do not support his "leadership".
i would prefer that a US President not degrade women, immigrants, people of color, handicapped people, other candidates for elected office, and avoid praising dictators who murder and constrain the rights of their people. It is difficult for me to just consider his policies on their merits when the values he embodies as a human being are so contrary to my own.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
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It is difficult for me to just consider his policies on their merits when the values he embodies as a human being are so contrary to my own.
I feel the same way whenever he speaks. Especially when he praises Veterans. I wonder if he is genuinely speaking from his heart.
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Rationality isn’t based on opinion. I’ve talked to you enough to cringe at the idea of you being rational. Remember when you said you were going to block me for my political post?@Fernie
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Lets not even touch the Presidency.
And at the other end. Its not his fault that he was born into money. Or that he was an average student who didnt play well with others.
Lets even allow that is was a coincidence that the doctor who signed off on him having bone spurs was a tenant in one of his fathers buildings. That may have been a coincidence.
Lets run with his history of financially unsound deals that always went bad after he had gotten him money out. leaving contractors unpaid and going broke. Thats not bad luck. Thats not even bad business.. That is unethical. And when it gets to the point where American banks wont touch you, because you are not ethical enough for Goldman Sachs, you KNOW your name is mud.
Then lets look at the serial philanderer. Buying up beauty contests to get access to his victims wholesale. Or we could jump straight to his third wife, who was in hospital giving berth to his son while he was out publicly having an affair with a stripper.
Or we can move on to his more recent business ventures, which really is him selling his name onto Airlines, steaks, Ties, Universities, casinos and Anything else that he can think of, while he makes extravagant promises of stewardship, then disappears, taking his cut, with dodgy financial arrangements in place that collapse with a puff of wind. (How DO you go broke in a casino??)
Now maybe I am being oversensitive here. But this is ONE man doing all these things.. I wont even mention Russian banks.. But you want to hold this man up as the figurehead of your nation???
And at the other end. Its not his fault that he was born into money. Or that he was an average student who didnt play well with others.
Lets even allow that is was a coincidence that the doctor who signed off on him having bone spurs was a tenant in one of his fathers buildings. That may have been a coincidence.
Lets run with his history of financially unsound deals that always went bad after he had gotten him money out. leaving contractors unpaid and going broke. Thats not bad luck. Thats not even bad business.. That is unethical. And when it gets to the point where American banks wont touch you, because you are not ethical enough for Goldman Sachs, you KNOW your name is mud.
Then lets look at the serial philanderer. Buying up beauty contests to get access to his victims wholesale. Or we could jump straight to his third wife, who was in hospital giving berth to his son while he was out publicly having an affair with a stripper.
Or we can move on to his more recent business ventures, which really is him selling his name onto Airlines, steaks, Ties, Universities, casinos and Anything else that he can think of, while he makes extravagant promises of stewardship, then disappears, taking his cut, with dodgy financial arrangements in place that collapse with a puff of wind. (How DO you go broke in a casino??)
Now maybe I am being oversensitive here. But this is ONE man doing all these things.. I wont even mention Russian banks.. But you want to hold this man up as the figurehead of your nation???
@whowasthatmaskedman He's never had to pay the consequences of his actions. To the point where he just started to make shit up and if you didn't agree "You're Fired" I wonder if sucking up to Putin is one more escape route, if the US tries to put him in jail or if he can't win the next election call in the big dogs.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Pitchblue Putin has a great deal of influence over the Russian banks Trump borrowed heavily from. There is nothing to indicate those loans have ever been repaid. While there is nothing illegal about that in itself, it is a VERY unusual situation. And if I owed a Russian bank hundreds of millions, I would be very nice to Putin and do my level best to keep him happy.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Razorback Yes, you often demonstrate the depth of said perspective, we’re all very impressed.
I am talking about why we don’t live in a Darwinian shithole anymore. You know, all the stuff that happened before you were born, and allowed you to grow up in the most prosperous period of American history - all the stuff you’d love to tear back down in the name of some hare-brained “principles” because omg regulations are scary.
What I hate most about knee jerk progressives is that they don’t even spend a second thinking about why people do things a certain way. Funny thing is that libertarians and a chunk of conservatives are just the same sort of stupid.
I am talking about why we don’t live in a Darwinian shithole anymore. You know, all the stuff that happened before you were born, and allowed you to grow up in the most prosperous period of American history - all the stuff you’d love to tear back down in the name of some hare-brained “principles” because omg regulations are scary.
What I hate most about knee jerk progressives is that they don’t even spend a second thinking about why people do things a certain way. Funny thing is that libertarians and a chunk of conservatives are just the same sort of stupid.
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Where do I start? For one, he doesn't know what he's doing. From his beliefs that placing tariffs on China would hurt Chinese trade but instead it hurt Americans (farmers) instead, removing the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal because of the lie he told that Iran wasn't following through with the bill to justify getting the U.S. out of that deal, and so much more. It must be annoying for advisors to deal with a president who doesn't listen when they warn him of doing xyz. So I can see why he plays golf more than trying to run a country because he doesn't want to/ doesn't know how to.
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I would assume that China is doing this because the U.S. placed tariffs on them
Even if the Iran deal was bad, Trump had the opportunity to tweak it. But he did not do that and he is now stuck. He also has the opportunity to make a new deal that's better, but I don't think he's going to do that.
All presidents have done this, Trump is following in their footsteps.
China is moving toward reduxing unfair tarrifs on US.
I would assume that China is doing this because the U.S. placed tariffs on them
Iran deal was bullshit from befinning with no verification.
Even if the Iran deal was bad, Trump had the opportunity to tweak it. But he did not do that and he is now stuck. He also has the opportunity to make a new deal that's better, but I don't think he's going to do that.
Barry kissed Arab asses and fot butt fucked by Ayatollahs
All presidents have done this, Trump is following in their footsteps.
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Harunaorekko Very likely. Try watching the events live. Completely different than what the media reports.
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redredred · M
They dont like him because hes so good at being president and they cant stand that idea. It challenges the validity of their entire idea about what should work.
The president of a superpower should be, at least in part, a son-of-a-bitch and not feel bad about the designation. Jimmy Carter is a perfect example if what they believe should work but doesnt, disasterously.
The president of a superpower should be, at least in part, a son-of-a-bitch and not feel bad about the designation. Jimmy Carter is a perfect example if what they believe should work but doesnt, disasterously.
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I'm well-educated; I don't expend "hate" on politicians. That's juvenile and solves nothing. I don't care for Trump overall, to put it in the most qualified sense, because I don't like the kind of quasi-nationalism and populism that his presidency represents, I don't appreciate his rhetoric on immigration, his deference to hawkish and socially conservative supporters and cabinet members, I don't care for his general demeanor and lack of articulation or his way of dealing with most other countries (I am glad that he has been tough with China, but would appreciate if he'd not kowtow to the Saudis like every previous president. I think he is close to making a colossal blunder with Iran), I don't support his spiteful desire to undo everything Obama ever did (this is not a quality I value in any president), etc. My major issues are less with Trump than with his fans and the zeitgeist (which cannot be blamed on Trump alone), nonetheless I did not vote for him and will most likely never do so.
I don't hate him as a person but I don't like him either. All politicians lie and he's just another one. But he seems to be lying more than others and he had never apologized for any of his lies. I'm not even talking about the ones that can be debatable between his supporters and haters. I'm talking about obvious stright up lies such as lying about his ancestry. The fact that he would lie about such a small non important detail like that makes me consider the possibility of all the other so-called "Trump lies" that people keep debating over
I also think he is very disrespectful, rude and dismissive of others. He continually blames and shames people. He never apologizes for the mistakes he has done no matter what and has never acted with responsibility, empathy, care or discipline. I think those traits have helped spread hatred in our country. I know people say Obama divided us and I used to believe that to some degree, but the truth is, I've never seen this country so divided before. I don't care if it's because the dems and the media hate him so much or if it's the other way around. I just want this to stop.
I didn't vote in 2016, but I'm going to make sure my vote will count in 2020. And I'll certainly vote to get Trump out. I don't care who I'll end up voting for, I just want Trump gone. Hopefully, we will deal with the rest later.
I also think he is very disrespectful, rude and dismissive of others. He continually blames and shames people. He never apologizes for the mistakes he has done no matter what and has never acted with responsibility, empathy, care or discipline. I think those traits have helped spread hatred in our country. I know people say Obama divided us and I used to believe that to some degree, but the truth is, I've never seen this country so divided before. I don't care if it's because the dems and the media hate him so much or if it's the other way around. I just want this to stop.
I didn't vote in 2016, but I'm going to make sure my vote will count in 2020. And I'll certainly vote to get Trump out. I don't care who I'll end up voting for, I just want Trump gone. Hopefully, we will deal with the rest later.
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OwnerOfMany · 90-99, M
ALL this emotion and ALL this rage and hate, and for what? Differences of opinion. There is only ONE thing any damn one of you can do and that is VOTE. You are wasting time, energy, and emotions over something you can not change at this point! You are arguing opinions not facts. The general public has no idea what the whole truth actually is.
ALL OF THEM ARE LYING CHEATING CROOKED PILES OF SHIT! BOTH SIDES! It is not a question of ARE they going to fuck the public but HOW ARE they going to fuck the public? If you have faith in any of them you are an idiot.
Pick your horse, place your bet, and winner take all. At the end of the race, win, lose, or draw, accept it and shut the fuck up!
ALL OF THEM ARE LYING CHEATING CROOKED PILES OF SHIT! BOTH SIDES! It is not a question of ARE they going to fuck the public but HOW ARE they going to fuck the public? If you have faith in any of them you are an idiot.
Pick your horse, place your bet, and winner take all. At the end of the race, win, lose, or draw, accept it and shut the fuck up!
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Razorback It's not relevant if I'm Canadian - this is about why people support/do not support him.
I can't tell if he wants peace or not because he threatens war all the time and hires maniacs like John Bolton.
And the economic gains are just for rich people. Half of Americans can't afford an emergency $1,000 expense. Trump makes coastal elites like Jeff Bezos richer, but not the people who work for him.
I can't tell if he wants peace or not because he threatens war all the time and hires maniacs like John Bolton.
And the economic gains are just for rich people. Half of Americans can't afford an emergency $1,000 expense. Trump makes coastal elites like Jeff Bezos richer, but not the people who work for him.
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Noonesingslikeyouanymore · 26-30, M
If he doesn’t have consent it could be considered assault@SW-User
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So you need consent to make a move on a woman’s? No wonder the world is going gay. Just talking to the opposite sex is considered assault now @Noonesingslikeyouanymore
softspokenman · M
He has called the News Media "The enemy of the people" and "Fake News", "CNN is the worst", and that they are all lying. However, he has never said exactly what is fake and what the lies about him are. That sounds more like, "Guilty by (his) accusation without proof", which would be lying to the public, use of intimidation, and misuse of authority.
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softspokenman · M
@Razorback Did trump cite those things at any time in his tweets or speeches?
MartinII · 70-79, M
Interesting how none of the replies, justified though many of them are, deal with politics or Trump ‘s performance as President.
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CoffeeFirst · 56-60, F
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But you just did dullard @CoffeeFirst
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Harriet03 I just knew you were going to show off your lack of insight. Too Funny. Your synapse is still misfiring I see.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@SW-User Well, I think it's possibly because I don't hate him... I just think he is thoroughly unpleasant and a poor excuse for a human being, lol.
Hate is an emotional response and can only lead to an argument based on emotion. Which IS actually part of what is wrong with the world currently. Too much reacting and being butthurt and not enough thinking.
HAD people been thinking in the first place I believe he would never had been elected as his temperament was quite obviously unsuitable.
Hate is an emotional response and can only lead to an argument based on emotion. Which IS actually part of what is wrong with the world currently. Too much reacting and being butthurt and not enough thinking.
HAD people been thinking in the first place I believe he would never had been elected as his temperament was quite obviously unsuitable.
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
@EugenieLaBorgia HoTTZ
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@DonaldTrumpet This iz a horrible meme but it does reflect yourz true mental state.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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Tres13 · 51-55, M
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
Do u?
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
@EugenieLaBorgia My soRTz Of ladIeZ
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Oh, yes, definitely we can, but here's the thing.. however much we DO explain it and to provide links, facts, and reasoned debate, those poor pleb Trumpites cannot benefit from our efforts.. they just don't have the intellect to understand how stupid they are - so there's no hope and no point. Factually, in the many hundreds of debates I have engaged in, I've never become emotional, but one cannot say the same for the Trumpeters.. they start hurling insane insults the second we respond.. So, one would be forgiven for believing that, if anything, it's the Trump supporters who are the emotional ones, clinging on to dogma and outdated beliefs, against logic..
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Razorback I am afraid not my sweet but hey keep up the delusion, it's in line with most of the Trump supporters I've encountered.. all they can do is hurl vague insults, lame ones usually at that. PS, you demonstrate you have less than zero understanding of transference by your comment, which is hardly surprising and does pretty much fit the point I was making.. Goodnight sweet - I remember our chats fondly back when we were friends.. it's funny you didn't hurl all these insults back then isn't it.
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You said you’ve never became emotional however
they just don't have the intellect to understand how stupid they are
is a very emotional driven quote. So you just put your foot in your mouth next @Adaydreambeliever
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Razorback More than you, of course. But I have a certain professional advantage there.
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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ExtremeNext · 36-40
He is my homie 👍 I got nothing bad to say
EugenieLaBorgia · F
@ExtremeNext I like his smile - it's honest - and he has a very gentle way about him.
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ineedadrink · 51-55, M
@Dumbbutfunctional: Dude, you must have gotten a thousand SW coins for this post. Well done.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
I haven’t seen him interacting with anyone. @ineedadrink
ineedadrink · 51-55, M
@SimplyTracie But his post is five pages long, doesn't he get credit for that? That's where I'm not sure of the system here.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@ineedadrink I dunno 🤷♀️
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Seatscorcher The funniest thing here is that like, 98% did keep their doctor. And Obama even apologized for the over-simplification.
These people rarely grasp their own talking points.
These people rarely grasp their own talking points.
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Razorback Ohhh 😮
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accidentalsaint · M
out of moonshine or your sister's out.. Again? 🤭
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@accidentalsaint so I take that as a no. I strongly believe you should have to write a paragraph explaining your vote. Anyone who can’t use logic votes get thrown out
accidentalsaint · M
@SW-User you may eat a dick again, for i care..
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