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@katielass yeah but then if you get a real job with health coverage, Obamacare makes you pay a lot of it back....they don't tell you that in the fine print. I know...I went through it.

@smmartydude Really? That's odd. When I went through the process of Obamacare , I had to read and "electronically sign" by checking a box that I understood that will happen in a case like that. Similar thing if your income changes and part or all of a subsidy has to be paid back. I thought it was very clear.

@smmartydude Let me see if I got this right. You had oblamocare but then got a job that provided health coverage and you had to pay back the government for the oblamacare?

@Scribbles Oh I see, if you get a subsidy you have to pay back the subsidy if you get employer coverage during that year. yeah, I didn't think about that but that sounds right. I mean that sounds like how it is, not that it's right. It's actually quite unfair. I mean really, you probably paid hundreds for just an insurance card like I did. What good is an insurance card if it pays nothing until you've paid out $6,600. Crapola, I'm almost glad I'm on disability and get medicare as of April 1. I can tell oblamocare to suck it.

@katielass What delusions would they be genius. Are these the tweets of your orange moron or are they not? Answer: yes, they are.

Where's the delusion? Oh I know, it's that you're like, really smart.

@katielass unfair? It's general health insurance. 😂
Isn't it suppossed to seem unfair to healthy people, and perfectly reasonable to people who actually have alot of medical bills?
I'm mostly happy with it though as far as my options go, It's like five hundred dollars every month cheaper then my last insurance that I never really had to use either

so yeah it's hundreds and hundreds of dollars just to have a little card that I'll probably never even have to use more then once a year. But on the off chance that say I get in a bad car accident or something It'll cover tens of thousands of dollars worth. That's the point of health insurance in America mostly. Back in my Grandparent's age, You'd barter a chicken or something if you didn't have the money to pay the doctor for helping birth say....my dad. But you would immedietly buy the hospital sold insurance if you had something like cancer or thought you'd really need it becuase your kid was ALWAYS sick, or you had regular drugs to take or whatever, because the bills would rack up fast and everything medical was getting more expensive. Of course that's like decades ago. But the idea of general health insurance still isn't to pay every expense or ease the burden. It'a to make LOADS of money to pay out on the off chance someone does have high medical bills. And nowadays there is the problem of some doctors\clinics\whatever not taking certain insurances and all that rigamoroll

Your medicare is paid mostly through taxes and trust funds I believe and is designed to be more used because it's for senior citizens or disabled (who generally will have more need for medical services and it's more designed to ease the monetary burden), and not for a general public health insurance that is like I said more about makimg tons of money to be used for a small percentage of those people..

Perhaps it would be MORE fair if we had a system like Canada or the UK?

@Scribbles Oh don't go down the Canada and UK route with katielass, she'll start calling you a communist.

But on a more serious note, what's "fair" about a system whereby insurance companies routinely cap coverage on chronic and pre-existing illnesses? If they cover them at all.

What happens when you reach that limit? You've paid premiums for years and then it's.........hey ho chum, time to die!

@katielass YES....not all of it, but a good chunk of it on the following years taxes.

@room101 everything about the health care system is unfair...the premiums, the deductibles, the paying back obamacare....it all sucks. I pay more for an office visit now that I have insurance than when I was uninsured. How fair is that?

@Scribbles yes, I think it's unfair for the government to say well as long as you don't have a job we'll help you pay for your insurance but if you get a job you have to pay all our portion back. Does getting a job mean he was able to afford it when he didn't have a job? No, and it doesn't make sense. It doesn't incentivize people to get a job. But that's the dem way, they want as may people dependent on the government as possible. It's as Jennifer palmieri put it in a recently leaked memo to other dems, necessary for our political future.

If you're paying less than you were, and frankly I find that very hard to believe, good for you but for most of us we're paying 3 times or more what we used to pay and the coverage sucks. I used to pay $400 for a great policy that had no deductible unless I was admitted into the hospital and that was only $250. The oblamocare policies suck compared to what I used to have but my state had its own exchange for the uninsured.

@room101 I challenge you to show where I've ever called anyone a communist. I already know you can't because I have never called anyone a communist. Not that facts or the truth matter to a dipshit like you. If you want to debate me, and you obviously wish you could, get your ass in gear and start reading, listening and learning. You can't debate me if you're going to sound like an ignorant fool. I'll debate circles around you, like I always do.

@smmartydude That's wrong. You got the subsidy when you did because you were deemed deserving by the law itself. Your getting a job and no longer needing the government's help doesn't change the fact that you needed it before. Like everything the dems do, bassackwards and stupid. Yet we know the ever so fair minded IRS was not enforcing the "tax" on those who refused to obey the law. Look what the government does to decent people who play by the rules. Once again, we see the dems care only about people who break the law.

@katielass You can challenge me all you like, it means sod all to me because everything that you say means sod all to me.

You talk about what's fair in your health care system like you have any kind of understanding or a social conscious. Clearly you don't because, if you did, you wouldn't call the crap system that you have over there obamacare, not to mention all of the bullshit permutations that you come out with.

Your Affordable Care Act is a messed up compromise between what Obama wanted for the USA and what the GOP forced onto the American public. I'd tell you to look it up but your skills (the lack thereof) in reading comprehension have been proven time and time again.

Case in point, your rant about the breaking of tax laws etc when your orange overlord still refuses to publish his tax returns, boasts that he's never paid any tax and, has just introduced tax reforms that guarantee that he and his cronies will get away with even more tax evasion.

Go away. Seriously, piss off and go sell your snake bite juice on posts authored by somebody else.

@smmartydude You want fair? Here's some free advice (how fair am I being right now, right?). The next time you get somebody in office who actually cares about the American people, ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE, actually listen to what he or she has to say.

@room101 I would...but when do you think we will EVER get someone in office who cares about ALL Americans and is also honest and forthcoming about everything?

@smmartydude He doesn't like the truth and can't comprehend common sense. He can, however, see when he's out of his league and that's when he gets all prissy.

@katielass Wrong yet again. Don't you get tired of being wrong over and over and over again.

I get "all prissy" whenever I lose patience and interest with the ramblings of idiots who are too dumb to know the truth when it slaps them in the face.

@smmartydude If you're looking for absolutes, you'll never find such a politician. If your country continues to put profit above social conscience, you'll never find such a politician. However, if you wake up to what the rest of the developed world has been waking up to for decades, you'll be able to see him or her when they appear on your political stage.

Sadly, people like katielass will never see anything other than their demented delusions. Hey, maybe Medicare will cover that for her too, but we'll all have to wait until 1st April to find out.