A controversial take I don't think should be controversial

Landed immigrants, foreign students of age and permanently residents, basically anyone who is going to be here long term should be able to vote.

Why? Because they contribute to the economy and the future of the country and the politicians get huge amounts of control over their future. So I believe they should get a say.

You don't have to be a citizen for the government to have huge amounts of control over your daily life, so you should not have to be a citizen to vote. Period.

You don't have a democracy if not every person impacted by the vote gets a say.

I also would lower the voting age to 16 since you don't have to be 18 to enter the workforce and contribute. And I don't think there is any magical wisdom that happens between 16 to 18.

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Elessar · 31-35, M

The barrier of citizenship exist for good reason; you don't want several hundreds of thousands or even a million of MAGA cross the border, get a "long term" work contract immediately before an election (and come on, they have sympathizers in the entrepreneur class virtually everywhere) cast their vote en masse and "resign" immediately after.

About the voting age, instead, I can agree

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@Elessar That could easily be remedied with specifics. I am not talking about every random tourist. I am talking about people like my friend who has been her trying to be a citizen since 2014, works as a teacher and pays taxes but has been stuck in a bureaucratic nightmare.

And if some Canuck version of MAGA got popular someone who would have her randomly deported could get elected and would have zero say in the matter.

none of those people in that scenario would meet those criteria.

I mean we give healthcare to landed immigrants but not every random tourist on vacation.