I don't necessarily believe in the 3 strikes law.

@Graylight In this person's case I know what they'll do and they may be a minority but the question still remains on what to do with someone who keeps assaulting others and getting out relentlessly even when the courts know they're a flight risk over and over again. I agree about the 3 strikes rule though. I don't think worth is defined after a certain number of mistakes but I'm also not sure if they're mistakes after you been doing it since you were a teen.

For instance I could mistakenly assault people over and over again but not sure if I do it over and over again if it counts as a mistake.

@SatanBurger What about prevention? Programs to keep people out of prison in the first place? Education? Mental health that actually means something? Open and meaningful addiction recovery? How about employment and housing assistance and job training? What about quality programs in prison across the board, not merely in the select few? How about ethics training and public service. There are a thousand stop-gaps before "throw away the key."

To pretend we know the lifetime of another person and to predict what they may do over the course of 60 years is to live in Minority Report. There's a reason that's a cautionary tale. And bottom line is, 3 strikes laws have done nearly nothing to curb crime.

@Graylight You have to remember that the American criminal justice system is just an extension of the slavery system. There will be no significant change as long as slavery is encoded in the constitution, although, as a member of the UN, the US can't practice traditional slavery. It does it through the court system which tries its best to imprison any Black person who shows up in court for any reason.

The cops are just modern-day Slave Patrollers.

Rudy Giuliani's program of stop-and-frisk gave the Slave Patrollers and excuse to deprive people, especially Black men, of the human and civil rights and it was in direct violation of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights =

"Article 5
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

"Article 7
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination."

"Article 8
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law."

"Article 9
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile."

"Article 13
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state."
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Agents of American local, State, and federal agencies routinely violate those articles and no one says a word. That declaration is a treaty, which is second only to the federal constitution as a legal document that regulates the government's behavior.

It has taken some time but the UN is finally investigating America's overt racism against the descendants of its former slaves and police state that is used to oppress and murder them.

The lead-off case is the one where the Akron, Ohio, Slave Patrol shot a Black man 60 times on June 27, 2022.

Globalism 101: UN To Investigate Ohio Police Shooting Of Black Man July 14th 2022, 2:07 pm
"A United Nations group is set to independently investigate the Akron, Ohio police shooting of Jayland Walker after officers shot him around 60 times as he ran from them on June 27.

The newly created UN group, formed in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death, is called the “International Independent Expert Mechanism to Advance Racial Justice and Equality in Law Enforcement.”"
https://www.infowars.com/posts/globalism-101-un-to-investigate-ohio-police-shooting-of-black-man/

The Slave Patrol lovers are upset that their thugs are being investigated by an international agency.

@Graylight This person actually doesn't want to work, he's even said so, so no job program will help this kind of person. All this person would do if you help him is manipulate you, then do it again. There's pests that just can't be helped. Also I said clearly in my post that I'm against the 3 strike law.

@Diotrephes I didn't know the UN is stepping in. Sad that it's necessary, but needed nonetheless, as we've proven inadequate at protecting our own.

@SatanBurger There is absolutely the population that won't or can't learn. They're easy to sentence on an individual basis. Mandatory provisions mean a mother who floats a check to buy groceries goes to prison for life because she got mixed up with an ass and made made decisions 12 years prior.

When you throw away a life, no matter how broken, you leave zero chance for redemption and transformation. How many times have you been adamant about something only to be a totally different person 5 years on?

If imprisoning there population worked, we'd lead the world in Best Citizens. It doesn't. (I understand your views; just laying out the points.)

@Graylight America has always been one of the leading violators of human and civil rights. What makes it worse is the hypocrisy. It will be interesting to see what kind of spin the various talking heads put on it.

BTW, did you see how the Louisiana taliban treated a woman because she wasn't wearing a "burqa"?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-louisiana-casey-lacaze-lachney-crop-top-cutoffs-ticket-apology-20220714-ez6mztrbcnhqdnjiph2pf3qzmu-story.html

When cops get away with oppressing anyone they will end up oppressing everyone.