I Am Going to Say Something Controversial

Truly, God is nothing but a myth. The church is even corrupt by its ways. Religion is like this: love me or go to hell and suffer. Honestly, it's fine to really have faith but in the end of the day, it's nothing but a myth. Propaganda and scapegoats are used nowadays for religion to gain more brain washed people. Quote from Marilyn Manson's song "The Fight Song" in Holywood (In The Shadows of The Valley of Death): "I'm not a slave to a God that doesn't exists."

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jon200547

I think we need to stop asking or debating if god exists cause the truth won't get its answer till the end of time and there are always going to be people who believe and people who will not and no one is going to change any minds maybe it is a topic that maybe could or maybe not be proven but we do got things that we can look at that you think we question that could prove one way or the other maybe we can't prove if god exists but these things do prove something like I said we do have things at this point that can't be explained but it's proof they exist but the question would be how like I said planets they exist and yet we have no answer how on that does anyone have an answer for that they existed long before us even before the first human being can anyone explain that one let's say for the argument that it's true that God does not exist we got planets that exist in my thought someone or something created the planets it sure wasn't us and what about us we did not create us you go back to the first humans which is Adam and Eve what about them I may not have proof that god exist but I am proving that something existed to do this and it's beyond human and science it's not proof that it's God but it proves something is unexplainable but the planets and we exist which in turn we shouldn't so we got something here to question and a lot of people want to believe that aliens created the planets and humans and I don't think so they could be more advanced than us but again there stuff would follow under science and again like I said the planets and humans were created beyond human and science aliens would fit under science for that topic which means I don't believe aliens created the planets or humans I think something beyond even them

Regrets472

I'd like to encourage you to read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

jon200547

I don't know why you're asking me to read that cause I am not the one saying he doesn't exist

Regrets472

The book is about how we know god doesn't exist.

jon200547

Really well I can say it's full of crap cause again I ask the question how are we here and parents don't count cause parents did not bring the first humans into the world and science did not either and sure not aliens cause that would be experiments and again science did not create the first humans or the world either

jon200547

And what brought the first humans is beyond science and aliens

jon200547

Even the world if not God we got a big unsolved problem on our hands

Regrets472

Sounds like you're afraid to read it and find out if is full of crap or not. That's ok, do it in your own time. But if you're right, reading it won't hurt you. If your wrong though, it'll change your life.

jon200547

I don't really care for books that much I am more a video game player if it isn't a game to play it don't concern me your probably thinking than why am I debating over this topic if I don't care fact is i believe that god exists cause one that's the only way we humans exist cause humans did not create the first humans cause there was no first humans before them aliens did not either it's beyond them even creating the whole entire world would be beyond them even if they were as intelligent as we make them or even if they exist or not point it's beyond them and science did not exist till us anyway so my question still stands what created the world all the planets and the people you say not God but it would take a God to create the world and people if not God than we got one big mystery on our hands unsolvable and parents aliens and science is out so what's left it isn't that book your telling me to read some guy wrote that book so what about people after a while yes parents but what made the two first for people to exist

Regrets472

you believe in the "God of the gaps" theory. Google that.

jon200547

Ok so I looked it up but u still did not answer my question you said no god again I ask u how is the world here how are we here

jon200547

Your no God theory does not answer the question

jon200547

Also want to add never went to church never read any of those books never heard people talk about God either so I was under no theory cause I haven't heard from anyone it's just my belief cause all I know someone or something had the power to create the world and people and what I know science did not aliens not a chance other people they did not create the first people and not science that term existed through people so there is an in answered question among us who or what had that kind of power to create the world the 9 planets and people that's a mystery in its self don't you think

Regrets472

only to the extent that he would accept a God if there were any proof.

Regrets472

your definition of God is "all the stuff I don't know yet." we also didn't know the earth orbited the sun, or that the earth is not flat , for a very long time. your logic would have had you believing in all the Sun Gods before humans discovered the earth orbits the Sun and it's round.

jon200547

I think before we can debate the question whether God exists or not we have a little mystery that needs answering or solved first either that or eventually it will give us our answer whether God exists or not cause lets just say for now you are right and God doesn't exist someone or something with a lot of power created this big world which involved 9 planets originally than there is us we created science it didn't exist till us people say we were created by aliens right now there is no proof of aliens to me one they are as much myth as God is plus number two if aliens did create us I would imagine we would be as intelligent as they are I would imagine they keep saying there is proof but I haven't seen it so to me it's all crap and even if there was aliens they did not create us they would or maybe would of been advanced but not that advanced to create a world and us to live on it so we are looking at a mystery with lots of power to create the world the universe and even people so if not God than what's the explanation world didn't create itself it just exists even us people didn't create people well not the first two anyway that started people which would be Adam and Eve they were the first I believe once this question can be fully answered than this should give us our answers whether God exists or not if explained with perfect sense than I can say than everyone would know or have to believe whether he truly does exist or don't cause this should determine it all and should be able to answer to us all whether God does or don't exist

Regrets472

we can talk about this after you read the book. I'm not typing it out for you here. The answers you seek are already in that book I have recommended.

jon200547

Ok I got something for you I can't say that it's proof but maybe question your logic on it and this makes me believe that God and angels do exist I got something here I forgot in my own experience I was little probably 3 or 4 I fell downstairs backwards I might add time I got to the bottom my legs was on the steps I think my back and head was on the floor and the way I went should have either broken my back or my neck and yet I came out of it without a scratch no mark or anything which I can say impossible and yet there is a miracle in itself would you like to explain that one to me no one can fall down the stairs and not be hurt or not have a bruise or a scratch on them let alone the way I fell in a normal situation like that reality calls I should of been dead or crippled if I survived that and yet I did no mark no bruises and still can walk

Regrets472

I know a woman who used to have diabetes. she attributes that to God too. just because we can't explain it doesn't mean it's done by a God. we'd be foolish too say we know everything about the human body.

Regrets472

he also addresses that, btw. It's a very well written book.

jon200547

Ok so there is two examples that women with diabetes and my one time falling down the stairs two miracle mysteries hmm sounds mysterious the human body can't deal with diabetes by itself so her by not having it any more a mystery and me one time fall down the stairs no bruises or a scratch and don't end up crippled or dead hmm another mystery I am sorry the human body could not protect itself like that or cure itself from diabetes not by itself

jon200547

That's not normal

Regrets472

Thank goodness everyone does not think like that. attributing everything to a God means there is no need for curiosity. what kind of God creates us with curiosity, then says we ought not use it? the same can be said of other human qualities. we're either the product of a sadistic being, or we're an evolved and evolving species. we're also "created" with a logical mind, but i guess we're not supposed to use it? your approach to science is more appropriate for the superstitious. "If I can't explain it, I don't admit there might be something I don't know, instead I attribute it to God. "

discipled

I would sat the same for the Bible ,start in John.