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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
I know it's a meme, but socialism literally only means worker's ownership of the means of production. No one said selling your own products is wrong, as long as you're just not gettimg rich off the labour of others.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@basilfawlty89 Why bother doing anything if there is no reward for work
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 except there literally is. Instead of wage slavery, workers collectively own and manage the business, hence they get the profits from sales.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@basilfawlty89 Just like the workers paradise of cuba, where folks are driving around in 1957 Fords, when they can get ahold of one
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@basilfawlty89 what would be the incentive for someone to be a doctor or a nurse? Why would someone go into that kind of debt to make the same amount as everyone else
Socialism doesn’t work because there is always a deficit
Government knows this. this is their way that they manipulate the masses into accepting communism. This is what happened to China USSR and Venezuela.
This is why it’s so important to know history
Socialism doesn’t work because there is always a deficit
Government knows this. this is their way that they manipulate the masses into accepting communism. This is what happened to China USSR and Venezuela.
This is why it’s so important to know history
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition you literally didn't look at a word I said. Marxism isn't the only form of socialism. Socialism has nothing to do with government ownership.
There are literally worker's cooperatives successfully working and the workers are happier, have more benefits and high standard of living. But go off, I guess.
There are literally worker's cooperatives successfully working and the workers are happier, have more benefits and high standard of living. But go off, I guess.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@basilfawlty89 Name a few?
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition there you go
https://institute.coop/about-worker-co-ops/examples-worker-cooperatives
Have fun.
https://institute.coop/about-worker-co-ops/examples-worker-cooperatives
Have fun.
BohemianBabe · M
@DeluxedEdition Yeah, you really don't want to go down that road. Co-ops are objectively more successful than capitalist companies.
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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition lol for now. Let me know how those sales are going with tariffs killing everything from farmers to multinational corporations.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@basilfawlty89
I think the misunderstanding here is I am criticizing Marxism
I read the article. I did not know that dynamic even existed. That’s pretty awesome 👏
Marxism isn't the only form of socialism. Socialism has nothing to do with government ownership
I think the misunderstanding here is I am criticizing Marxism
I read the article. I did not know that dynamic even existed. That’s pretty awesome 👏
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@basilfawlty89 prices are fine here I even started shopping full time at the organic store 😂
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition again. Trump's tariffs won't help the average American. And his policies are every bit as authoritarian as the USSR. It's one thing to be against cartels. I'm half Mexican, we hate cartels. It's another to call every Latino a cartel member and deport us for being brown (which is ironically due to predominantly Native American ancestry).
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@basilfawlty89 that’s why Americans needs to stop being democrat and republican and invest In the other partisans
Republicans too far is oligarchy
Democrats too far is communism
Republicans too far is oligarchy
Democrats too far is communism
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition also not what Communism is.
Communism refers to a stateless, classless society where everyone works according to their ability and receives according to their need.
The USSR was neither socialist or communist. Their goal was ostensibly socialism. But it wasn't either.
Communism refers to a stateless, classless society where everyone works according to their ability and receives according to their need.
The USSR was neither socialist or communist. Their goal was ostensibly socialism. But it wasn't either.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@basilfawlty89 It also failed
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 it didn't. See above link and consult someone on Lewy Bodies
BohemianBabe · M
@DeluxedEdition
The problem is that the way our system is set up, third parties don't stand a chance in actual elections. We need to have rank-choice voting in order to give third parties a shot.
How exactly? Communism is stateless and classless. How have the Democrats tried to disband the government?
that’s why Americans needs to stop being democrat and republican and invest In the other partisans
The problem is that the way our system is set up, third parties don't stand a chance in actual elections. We need to have rank-choice voting in order to give third parties a shot.
Democrats too far is communism
How exactly? Communism is stateless and classless. How have the Democrats tried to disband the government?
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@BohemianBabe communism sounds good on paper but communism isn’t how it’s definition is portrayed
BohemianBabe · M
@DeluxedEdition I'm not a Communist, I'm just saying the Democrats definitely aren't Communists either. The Democrats are centrist Liberals.