I Am Tired of People Abusing the Word "Socialism"

@St0ut in a police atate there's usually a shortage of security and food

@lorne13 socialism requires a police state see Catalonia 1920s, ussr, China Cuba Venezuela

@St0ut yeah right

@St0ut Really? How about France for half of it's governments since WW2, or Italy in the same period. Or the one or two in the UK (Harold Wilson, Clement Atlee straight after Churchill after WW2)...All three didn't have a police state.

You're welcome.

@HerKing yeah so successful they are capitalist.

@St0ut That's democracy..Governments aren't voted in, they're voted out. But the argument you were making wasn't their success: It was that socialist governments are the definition of a police state. Demonstrably untrue.

They where elected out because their policies where failing

@St0ut Again...That wasn't your argument.. Let me remind you.

[quote]socialism requires a police state [/quote]

@HerKing Lol. Yes. There was not a police state to enforce socialism and they where voted out. You are exactly correct

@St0ut What? They were initially voted in and needed no police state. Conservative governments were equally voted out. No police state. Italy had almost continuous socialist governments until well into the 80s from WW2. No police state.

@HerKing no they had capitalism with socialist policies. The communist where voted out in 1948. Again not socialism again even that failed