How did i get in this group?

@BohemianBoo
I'll give you the link
https://youtu.be/7JCyEEpBcdE

@Ozuye502 [quote]However, it is rarely in expanding liberties but governmental power.[/quote]

Wouldn't more transparency help expand liberties? It would reduce the amount of corruption.

[quote]If someone has documented threats charge them with threatening terrorism its a felony offense and bars them from legally owning a firearm if the conviction sticks. That is due process. But just stripping a person of the tools to defend themselves and possibly putting food on their table that they legally own based on hearsay is a good thing? [/quote]

So it sounds like you're alright with red flag laws, you just want there to be due process and set criteria, which every state with red flag laws has. And you can also petition to get your guns rights back. It's not like someone calls the cops on you once and then you can never own a gun again.

@BohemianBoo
I will agree with you on that.
Documented threats are way different than hearsay most red flag laws allow for hearsay and i was using current law that i also dont agree with. That having a felony charge on your record bars you from firearms ownership. Non violent felony charges like should not hold against you in the basic natural right of self defense. Making a terroristic threat that is documented is vastly different. Charge and conviction must come first. Like i said my customer spent well over 10,000$ in legal fees just to get his tools back. That turned his right into a privilege. If he didn't have the privilege to afford that he wouldn't have gotten his tools back.
Yes I refer to firearms as tools.

@Strongtea have you even handled or been trained to use a firearm? They aren't scarier than driving a vehicle. Actually you are more likely to be hurt or killed by a vehicle than firearm.

No, I’ve never handled one or been trained, I went to a party when I was on holiday in San Diego and someone got a gun out to show me, honestly I nearly fainted I was so scared.@Ozuye502

@Strongtea
Your fear is a phobia. I handle countless on a regularly basis. If you want face that fear and understand that a firearm is nothing more than a tool and when handled correctly can be very fun to use.

@BohemianBoo