Suspect kills 10 at Buffalo supermarket mass shooting (this happened today May 14, 2022)

BUFFALO, N.Y. - A gunman in military-style clothing opened fire with a rifle at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, in what authorities called a "hate crime and racially motived violent extremism," killing 10 people and wounding three others before being taken in custody Saturday afternoon, law enforcement officials said.

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Everytown for Gun Safety:
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The Brady Campaign:
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Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America:
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The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence:
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Giffords PAC:
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M

@Graylight The numbers never lie, however, I would agree that you can make them say whatever you want if you ask the right question. I question statistics like this one. For example, in 2020 there were 45,000 firearm caused deaths in the US, in a country with 330M people, that is 0.000136 deaths per million people in 2020. Considerable less than the stat from the article. My own experience factors into what I believe. I have owned firearms for 50 years, having started shooting and hunting when I was about 4 years old. They have been a daily thing in my life for those 50 years and I have never been shot at, never used a firearm in the commission of a crime, and know very few people who have had any problem with firearms and I don't know anyone who has been threatened by a mass shooting. I am not denying they happen, but they aren't a safety concern for me any more than getting struck by lightening is. If guns are hard to come by, the Boston bombers proved that those intent to kill others will find a way to do it whether it is a moving truck on a side walk or an IED made from cooking utensils.

AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M

@Roadsterrider imagine sending a kid out into the world telling them to be scared at all times of being struck by lightning , but never telling them to look both ways before crossing the street (which is a much higher statistical probability of death than lightning ).
Many parents tell their kids something equivalent to that .

Graylight · 51-55, F

@Roadsterrider And we can agree on this. But to say mass shootings isn't a big deal so let's not overreact to the gun issue is a little like saying and over end car flips barely kill anyone, so let's not worry so much about seat belts.

Roadsterrider · 56-60, M

@AthrillatheHunt I can't help what other parents tell their children, but I told my own children what I perceived to be the best information to keep them safe. I am not concerned with what other parents teach, it really isn't any of my business.

Roadsterrider · 56-60, M

@Graylight I didn't say it wasn't a big deal, I said it isn't a concern for me, murder is a big deal. If it were up to me, when there is video or multiple wintnesses, a murderer should go to a death row express lane. I don't live in fear of a mass shooting or even getting shot. I have been in several accidents, seat belts save lives, I am one of them. The chances of me getting killed or injured in a car are far greater than being injured or killed by a firearm, the same applies to every person on the planet. But, there aren't a bunch of politicians trying to get cars outlawed even though they are a greater threat in daily life. There aren't groups who tell falsehoods about car injuries to make it look worse than it really is.

I read a study by the FBI a few years ago about repeat violent offenders, it was about what they feared during violent offenses like murder, robbery and rape. Over 90% feared encountering an armed victim. The same percentage admitted they had not pursued a potential victim because they thought they had a means of defense. Their number 1 concern wasn't getting shot by police, going back to prison, getting arrested, their number 1 fear was an armed victim. That in itself seems a good reason to me to be armed.