Well this is all very alarming.. For citizens of Uk

@BrandNewMan Or switch off the TV and your social media feed and:

Think of a family doctor being able to view your hospital records, or vice versa.
Think of the sick and elderly receiving all their entitlements in one place without taxpayer money being siphoned off by fraudsters
Think of the government being able to accurately quantify immigration flows and break the employment black market that drives these.

As I said, serious debate is needed.

@SunshineGirl OMG you either actually believe this drivel .. or you're getting paid to simp for it.

You are like the vampire familiars ..

@BrandNewMan Oh dear! “You must be getting paid to have a moderate and rational opinion” is classic MAGAmoron territory.

@BrandNewMan Meanwhile, I’d bet money that you have no issue with daily school massacres… because “freedom”.

@BrandNewMan
You are not doing much to raise the level of debate.

What offends you about my post? That I seek practical solutions for real problems? That I still have confidence in democratic forms of government?

@SunshineGirl What debate is there to be had? The minor things you describe will be part of it .. so, eventually, will the things I describe. Once the power to do so is in place, events occur that trigger the govt and they'll decide they want to shut down opposition, punish some people.

What you describe basically exists, just not centrally coordinated / controlled. Add that central coordination and ability to control .. and as Canada has shown so quickly into their ability to do so .. the option to control will be utilized. There are leftists on SW now advocating violence against conservatives to punish them for having voted for Trump. If in power, you think like minded people would not weaponize that control? Wake up to the world around you . if they will kill Charlie Kirk, attempt to kill Trump they would absolutely justify this.

It will be rationalized as being done for the "greater good" .. like all the covid mandates. It is within the darker side of human nature to use such control against other humans. Ever studied history? Its rife w proof.

@BrandNewMan So the Covid-19 vaccines - two out of three of which were authorised for mass use by the first Trump administration - are estimated to have prevented 3.2m additional deaths and 12.9m additional hospitalisations in the first two years. If Trump had not been pussyfooting around for most of 2020, more lives would have been saved. That is the public good done by mass vaccination. The bad? Has this programme resulted in an increased capacity by federal government to control the people? Well, althoughTrump has an unhealthy appetite for silencing opposition and sacking public servants without just cause, I am not sure you can attribute this to Covid-19.

@SunshineGirl But they did NOT prevent the vaccinated person from contracting the virus, or transmitting it to others. My comments are around the policies of Biden's administration to fire people, including doctors, nurses, paramedics, police and US service men /women etc who refused the vaccines, while using those specific claims of prevention of transmission as the rationale.

Silencing opposition ?? Sounds more like shooting Charlie Kirk and plotting several times to kill Trump, getting social media to censure content disagreeable to liberal positions, assessing unheard of civil penalties on a political candidate in an attempt to cripple his ability to campaign. All the left's actions. You have no grounds to be throwing that stone.