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Southern US states are freer than UK

UK is an archaic country that still has a monarchy, laws that restrict free speech, a socialist dictator, a socialist civil service, extremely permissive abortion laws (some of the most extreme in the world), very unfair and regressive laws, and many other things wrong with it.

Have the British ever understood freedom?
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Richard65 · M
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This is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Keir Starmer is a socialist dictator 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We have a monarchy AND we have a socialist dictator and Civil Service 😄

There is plenty wrong with it. It's not socialist enough.
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@Richard65 What do you think socialism is?
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SW-User
@Richard65 You said: “We have a monarchy AND we have a socialist dictator and Civil Service”

This is why UK is less free than southern US states, and most of the world.

Can you tell me what you think socialism is?
Richard65 · M
@SW-User I was being sarcastic. It's contradictory to have a socialist dictator AND a monarchy. I was enjoying your apparent confusion. So, again, what makes you think Starmer is a socialist dictator, considering he's practically purged every left leaning MP from the Labour Party?
Also, the main UK union, Unite, refused to sign off on Labour's latest manifesto as they felt it didn't represent worker's rights strongly enough. Doesn't sound so socialist to me.
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@Richard65 Your attempt at sarcasm and your many emojis were noticed. My response has gone over your head. I think you are trying to avoid my question, and I find it insane that you do not believe a monarchy and socialist government can exist together and make a country less free. What is wrong with you? Life isn't a dictionary; the world does not work according to how you think it should. When are you going to learn that words mean nothing? Actions mean something; what we do is everything. Your real complaint is not that Labour and Starmer are not socialist, but they are less extreme (this is your perception, not reality) than you want them to be.

I really hope “65” does not represent your birth year…does it?
Richard65 · M
@SW-User that was certainly an epic word salad. You ask me twice what socialism means, then immediately state that words mean nothing.
Come back when you're sober.
SW-User
@Richard65 I want to know what you think it means. Can you have a discussion in good faith, or are you going to continue misunderstanding and resorting to deflections?

You think the world you live in is "contradictory", and it therefore cannot be. For a man of your age, you have much growing up to do.
Richard65 · M
@SW-User I genuinely don't think you know what you're talking about. I generally have respect for opinions made by intelligent adults and will give them an intelligent response. But yours was so obviously bonkers trolling that I just had to laugh. You couldn’t care less about my opinion.
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@Richard65 Why do you think it is impossible for a country to have a monarchy AND a socialist dictator with socialist civil servants? Or is it that you think it is implausible? Tell me what is unreasonable about my view.

Socialist parties exist, and Labor is one. They have been voted for, albeit by a very small number of people when we consider population size, and they lead a country with a monarchy. Starmer has said: “I would describe myself as a socialist. I describe myself as a progressive.”

UK is: “a democratic constitutional monarchy.”

Spain also has a socialist government, and they still have a monarchy. In Britain, you have an election every five years, half a decade, to elect a leader who either comes from a middle class, educated background, or upper class, highly educated background. It is assumed the monarch has no power, but this is wrong. They do have power. UK is the kind of place that would not dream of undermining its monarchy. Starmer is like any other socialist, and that is a liar who does want money and to live a good life. What is your argument? That he is less of a socialist than Jeremy Corbyn? The truth here is complicated. In some respects, he is, and in other respects, he isn't. Starmer is a true dictator. Corbyn has some old fashioned liberal ideas that are closely associated with the real right wing, and he is not a socialist in this regard. Sharing wealth and getting rid of nuclear weapons because he wants us to all love one another makes him an idealist, unlikely to be a socialist dictator due to lacking the capacity to be ruthless. I interpret socialism as a lack of control over one's life, one's destiny, and the handing of power to the state.

In UK, the state works with the monarchy, socialist or not. Most socialists in the world are rich, like both Starmer and Corbyn are. The poor are the people being persecuted for getting upset over stabbings and terror attacks and exercising their right to protest. Our governments are paid for by us, and when they are fucking their citizens, they have a right to fight back.
Richard65 · M
@SW-User does "exercising their right to protest" include attempting to burn down hotels with people still inside them...?
If the citizens are so angry at their government, then why do they attack asylum seekers and immigrants, the most vulnerable people in society? Why are those who attack immigrants the most loyal monarchists?
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@Richard65 It is normal for groups to compete with one another, and when their existence and their lives are threatened, they will resort to violence. British believe their quality of life is being compromised and that their government is choosing to meet the needs of others over those of their native population. Are they paying their taxes to have fewer places to live and more crime? This is what immigration means. Protesters did attack police, and police are not civilians.

Why do you think asylum seekers and immigrants are the most vulnerable in society? They are no more vulnerable than a native who is equally poor. Our most vulnerable are children and the elderly. 75% of the people arriving in Britain on small boats are men over the age of 18, most of them young. Can you tell me what is vulnerable about them? Unless they are pregnant, a child, or very old, illegal migrants entering other countries are not “vulnerable” or the “most vulnerable.”

In 2016, UK voted to have less, not more, immigration to its country. What do you think Brexit was about? They were averse to both legal and illegal immigration. At least half of UK country has a strong view on this matter. Conservatives lost because they did not resolve this issue and have allowed it to become worse. This is, in part, due to the very progressive UK civil servants who appear to run the show. A more effective leadership would tell them to listen to what their country wants.

“Why are those who attack immigrants the most loyal monarchists?”

Are they? If you are right, I would not count on it remaining that way. Your queen is dead, and she isn't coming back.
Richard65 · M
@SW-User you're mistaken on a whole variety of issues, but you'll have to forgive me, I just live here and have done all my life. I actually live in the epicentre of immigration in an old post industrial northern town in England. You've swallowed most every piece of uninformed propaganda I can think of. But please continue to enjoy your delusions if they support your inherent bigotry. Cheers.