The retarded shit the guy arguing with Joe rogan says here literally gets taught in college classes, and our taxes support it..
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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@BRUUH The term isn't really thrown out there, but the guest is basically talking about gender abolitionism. That basically tries to disconnect all of the arbitrary expectations and connotations of what is masculine from the biological sex.
If the only thing that defines a male as a man is his biological sex, then the only trans identify left is transsexual based on physical body dysphoria.
Basically that means:
Clothing is no longer masculine or feminine.
Liking sports is no longer masculine or feminine.
Participation in sports becomes classified by actual ability (think about weight classes wrestling keep people in competitive brackets)
The argument is that if the one characteristic of sexual function is the defining factor of what makes someone a man, then you can not load a bunch of extra definitions into what makes someone a man.
Because when society says that a man is X,Y,Z,1,2,3 and one person is X,Y and another person is Z,1,2,3 they both get confused about whether they are a man or not because they both partially fit the definition. If the first one is a man because he was born with a penis and the second one isn't because they weren't, then that means traits Z,1,2,3 are all meaningless to the definition of a man.
If the only thing that defines a male as a man is his biological sex, then the only trans identify left is transsexual based on physical body dysphoria.
Basically that means:
Clothing is no longer masculine or feminine.
Liking sports is no longer masculine or feminine.
Participation in sports becomes classified by actual ability (think about weight classes wrestling keep people in competitive brackets)
The argument is that if the one characteristic of sexual function is the defining factor of what makes someone a man, then you can not load a bunch of extra definitions into what makes someone a man.
Because when society says that a man is X,Y,Z,1,2,3 and one person is X,Y and another person is Z,1,2,3 they both get confused about whether they are a man or not because they both partially fit the definition. If the first one is a man because he was born with a penis and the second one isn't because they weren't, then that means traits Z,1,2,3 are all meaningless to the definition of a man.
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ElwoodBlues · M
@BRUUH says
We have observed genotypes involving XXX, XXY, XYY and X0 (Turner syndrome) sex chromosomes. And we've observed human phenotypes with a range from no functioning sex organs to varying amounts of male & female sex organs on the same individual (these are often called intersex). Genetic mosaicism is where the X and Y chromosomes are expressed differently (from the most common expression) on different parts of the body (these phenotypes are also often described as intersex and sometimes hermaphrodite). These are all observable biological phenomena in the human family, and we have no easy category for them. Neither male nor female fits.
But the real debate is about the most complex sex organ of all, the human brain.
A man is a grown male.. whatever implications that has on trans issues doesn't change that.The only thing that defines a male as a man is biological,
We have observed genotypes involving XXX, XXY, XYY and X0 (Turner syndrome) sex chromosomes. And we've observed human phenotypes with a range from no functioning sex organs to varying amounts of male & female sex organs on the same individual (these are often called intersex). Genetic mosaicism is where the X and Y chromosomes are expressed differently (from the most common expression) on different parts of the body (these phenotypes are also often described as intersex and sometimes hermaphrodite). These are all observable biological phenomena in the human family, and we have no easy category for them. Neither male nor female fits.
But the real debate is about the most complex sex organ of all, the human brain.