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Who do the most damage - conservatives or republicans?


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JSul3 · 70-79
Historically, it is conservatives.

When conservatives controlled the Democratic party, former Confederates formed the KKK.

When the Civil Rights and the Voters Rights Acts were signed by LBJ, those conservative Democrats jumped to the Republican party.

From Nixon forward, the party became more conservative. The moment the Robert's court struck down part of the Voting Rights Act, the ink wasn't dry as red states began passing restrictive voting laws.

Now the party of Lincoln/Reagan is dead. It is now 100% The Party of Trump, where no voice of dissent is allowed, and those who do not bow down and pledge 100% loyalty to Dear Leader Trump, are quickly dispatched.

The party had 2 opportunities to remove the cancerous growth Trump from their body politic, but refused to do so, because they feared losing power and control. Now they can reap what they sow....a candidate that spouts fear mongering, hateful rhetoric, threatens to destroy democracy, and sees himself as an authoritarian in the mold of those he admires, Putin and Kim.

If you doubt their plans for governing, read Project 2025. The object is to hand all of the power of governing to the Executive branch, and dismantle the 3 branches of government, and use the military to remove dissenters.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@JSul3 An interesting, and revealing, read.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/06/rishi-sunak-javier-milei-donald-trump-atlas-network
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@JSul3
Historically, it is conservatives.

That is a lie. Modern day Conservatism goes back to the mid-Sixties, (when Democrats decide to try to turn America into the Soviet Union.

When conservatives controlled the Democratic party, former Confederates formed the KKK.

Nope. The Democrats have ALWAYS been racists. They are racists today. Instead of the KKK, they have the racist BLM.

When the Civil Rights and the Voters Rights Acts were signed by LBJ, those conservative Democrats jumped to the Republican party.

That is a lie that has been debunked a million times. Republicans were the reason for the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which ended the Democrat JIM CROW laws.

From Nixon forward, the party became more conservative. The moment the Robert's court struck down part of the Voting Rights Act, the ink wasn't dry as red states began passing
restrictive voting laws.

Nixon was one of the most LIBERAL presidents in history. He had a record that far lefters like Carter, Obama, KKKlinton and Unelected Joe would envy. NO Supreme Court has struck down ANY portion of the Republican Civil Rights Act.


Now the party of Lincoln/Reagan is dead. It is now 100% The Party of Trump, where no voice of dissent is allowed, and those who do not bow down and pledge 100% loyalty to Dear Leader Trump, are quickly dispatched.

Trump governed PRECISELY like Reagan, which gave America the greatest economy of all time, and WORLD PEACE. Most of America wants him back in office, after that RACIST UNELECTED PEDOPHILE Biden destroyed our economy and brought us close to WWIII.


The party had 2 opportunities to remove the cancerous growth Trump from their body politic, but refused to do so, because they feared losing power and control. Now they can reap what they sow....a candidate that spouts fear mongering, hateful rhetoric, threatens to destroy democracy, and sees himself as an authoritarian in the mold of those he admires, Putin and Kim.

The only cancer is liberalism. Also known as NAZISM for the 21st Century.
Eichmann would be proud of you DemoNazis.
JSul3 · 70-79
@Reason10 So who were those 'fine people' in Charlottesville, carry tiki torches and chanting 'Jews will not replace us! Blood and soil?'
They were not Democrats....they were Trump's base.
J6: The Day Blue Lives Didn't Matter.....
Trump's base.

I see that you have your own set of 'alternative facts.'
@Reason10 If racist Democrats didn't switch to the GOP, how do you explain the fact that the South, which used to be solid Democratic, is almost solid Republican today?

If Nixon were alive today, Republicans would drum him out of the party for initiating relations with China and for his environmentalism and creating the EPA.

If you're looking for a pedophile, that would be Trump, who talked about dating his own daughter when she was still a child.
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jehova · 31-35, M
@Reason10 if trump is "most of america" as you claim. He lost; so nope. Maybe most of your america. Further the largest portion of america's population live in cities, which are statistically democrat/liberal dominated.
Therefore wake the F up.
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jehova · 31-35, M
@Reason10 it was stolen by the voter. Can u cite or provide documentation of votes being stolen? Prolly not therefore; stop being a baby and act like the sore loser you are old enough to be. Name caĺing without actual evidence is slander and childish hows those retirement checks treating you? But no to socialism. Eh?
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
@JSul3 Wow you got that out of Project 2025? Ive read the thing cover to cover and that's not what they are trying to do. In fact the plan for the military is really great and I hope Trump actually listens to that part. Theres going to be a lot more support for military families and they are going to improve military housing. The promotion processes are going to be revamped to make it more clear what the standards are. Right now you submit a packet, get a promotable status and you have to wait for a list to come out that you may or may not be on. If you aren't on the list theres no telling why. Under this you will know whether or not you'll be promoted a lot faster. Yeah theres stuff about cutting out certain government offices, because "the government is a behemoth" which is true. Yeah there won't be anymore free rides. People will need to get up off their ass and quit mooching off of welfare. So yeah I can see how that is scary for some people, but if you work for a living you should be for it.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh i see no need for more military.
Support our troops bring them home.and provide for them here. Project 2025 is a plan to spend more money we dont have on things we dont need. It advocates public support only for veterans; after they serve. Do u support forced conscription?
It sounds like it.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh id be suprised if trump even reads it but he likely will 'support' it
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
@jehova I think requiring military service would actually benefit the country. It would take a generation of kids without parents and teach them to be resilient problem solvers and instill some confidence and motivation in them. Thats what the Army did for me. They will really teach you how to be independent and self sufficent. But then the miltary is not for everyone.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh i think it could work but then all money even tax revenue is from and then collected by the government. It would teach everyone how to survive at least; which is good
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh further i worry about freedom of thought if everyone is trained as a soldier. But something needs to change. . . So
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
@jehova I don't get what you mean about tax revenue. I dont think anything would really change with tax revenue. But I do think it would change a lot of the mindsets from lazy entitled individuals to hard working, competitive, and resilient individuals. Which would carry over into businesses when people get out and get into the private sector.
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
@jehova Freedom of thought is already gone if you're a conservative. Everything we say is labeled as hate speech before we even say it.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh i can agree itd inspire loyalty to the country but having militaristic consent to governmemt drilled into every citizen might decrease freedom or thought and critical thinking.
The revenue thing. Is if everyone has military pension and benefits whose paying everyone? Itd be a balance. We (the us) are in lots of debt already. If your employer paid you 1000 dollars but collected 300 of it in taxes how are they collecting tax from the money they gave you. Where is that money coming from. If you see the infinity loop thats creates.
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
@jehova Well the thing is the commitment would have to be for not very long. Right now when people enlist, the first contract is usually 4 years then you can sign additional contracts from there. For me it was 4 years active then an additional 4 years on inactive ready reserve, because I went in as an officer. I would say make the mandatory service like 1-2 years. Some people would like it and stay and the people who hate it would get out. So I think we would end up with the same amount of people getting full benefits.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MrSmooTh and everyone would get out with about $50k to start life with? And education opportunities survival training medical coverage. Its a decent idea. Alot of countries do something like that. Many of those countries are communist; so be aware.
@Reason10 If the 2020 election was stolen, it was on Trump's watch. So what makes you think the Democrats won't steal the one in November when they're in power right now? I think you shouldn't vote to register your disapproval of the whole corrupt process.
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