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Israel is an illegal illegitimate country that should not have it's own sovereign existence

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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
Bit much. Unfortunately, some bad shit went down when it came into existence, and Israel has triple downed on not caring to the point now where they are becoming a theocratic fascist state.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Fukfacewillie There is some truth to this..Of all nations on earth, Israel is probably the closest tied to both land and religion and its "creation myth" is fresh in the Holocaust and very real in living memory still.. Israel sees its right to exist as absolute and sacred and many of its people will die before giving it up again.. That makes them dangerous to anyone they see as a threat in a way few nations are...😷
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Although Zionism was a powerful force before WW 2, the partition plan included an "Israel." Without the Holocaust I don't know if that would have happened. Unfortunately, in a grotesque irony, the wrong lessons were learned from "Never Forget." I am not challenging whether Israel should exist as a country, but they do not hold a monopoly on lessons learned from the Holocaust. As a Jew myself, Israel is a shonde, which is Yiddish for a disgrace and a shame.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Fukfacewillie I agree. America and later the UN certainly recognised the State of Israel as legitimate so quickly, as a bizarre form of compensation for Hitlers atrocities.. Mel Brookes himself observed that Hitler would turn in his grave (if he had one) to think that he bore a great responsibilty for the creation of Modern Israel...😷