What on earth did Marx mean when he said that weak races should perish in his revolutionary holocaust? [I Think American Education Is Steering Us Toward Communism]
31-35, M
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I've never heard of him having ever said such a thing.
In which work did he say it and on what page?
If I have the reference, I'll look it up.
In which work did he say it and on what page?
If I have the reference, I'll look it up.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@hartfire "People's Paper" (Marx, April 16, 1856). You can find it in the Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol 12, No 1. 1981
You are telling me you have had no idea of the racism and genocide that came from communists and marxists since Marx?
You are telling me you have had no idea of the racism and genocide that came from communists and marxists since Marx?
@pianoplayingsteve
I am aware of the genocides, especially under Stalin, Lenin and Mao. I am aware that racist persecutions, especially of Jews in Russia and all religious groups in China were a major feature of those regimes - and I would never for one second support any of those practices. Nothing could be more morally wrong or abhorrent.
I knew that Marx believed that only a revolution could overthrow the old injustices, and that he was against all religion. But I did not know that he advocated racism.
I will look up the reference. Thank you very much for providing it.
When examining socialist goals, policies and methods, it's useful to separate the different types. There are so many different versions now - several incompatible with the others - including one version of "anarchy."
As I understand it, in contemporary socialist thinking, Marxism is still studied as a foundation - but it's proposed methods of achieving its goals are no longer accepted
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Contemporary socialism strongly opposes racism, sexism, and any kind of prejudice against a person for things like disability, age, or other traits over which they have no control.
Most (but not all) forms of socialism still strongly oppose religion. It holds the policy that adults may have freedom of faith; that teaching science, logic and critical thinking should be mandatory in all schools; and that children should learn about the beliefs of all religions in schools, but may not be permitted to be taught only one faith.
I can see why religious parents would strongly object to such policies.
I am aware of the genocides, especially under Stalin, Lenin and Mao. I am aware that racist persecutions, especially of Jews in Russia and all religious groups in China were a major feature of those regimes - and I would never for one second support any of those practices. Nothing could be more morally wrong or abhorrent.
I knew that Marx believed that only a revolution could overthrow the old injustices, and that he was against all religion. But I did not know that he advocated racism.
I will look up the reference. Thank you very much for providing it.
When examining socialist goals, policies and methods, it's useful to separate the different types. There are so many different versions now - several incompatible with the others - including one version of "anarchy."
As I understand it, in contemporary socialist thinking, Marxism is still studied as a foundation - but it's proposed methods of achieving its goals are no longer accepted
.
Contemporary socialism strongly opposes racism, sexism, and any kind of prejudice against a person for things like disability, age, or other traits over which they have no control.
Most (but not all) forms of socialism still strongly oppose religion. It holds the policy that adults may have freedom of faith; that teaching science, logic and critical thinking should be mandatory in all schools; and that children should learn about the beliefs of all religions in schools, but may not be permitted to be taught only one faith.
I can see why religious parents would strongly object to such policies.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@hartfire Where did you get that definition of socialism? It is these collectivistic socialistic attitudes that give the state the most power to persecute minorities and it has always been rife in socialistic societies for that very reason.
Socialism is simply the pooling of some or all resources between an agreed upon in group. I like definite, clear definitions that you'd find in a science textbook. Leaves no room for confusion or bias.
Socialism is simply the pooling of some or all resources between an agreed upon in group. I like definite, clear definitions that you'd find in a science textbook. Leaves no room for confusion or bias.