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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer Animals take a fixed portion of everything each animal has and uses it to create an animal health service? No, they operate at the level of individuals, family and immediate tribe.
Gloomy · F
@pianoplayingsteve I recommend you read "Mutual Aid as a factor of evolution" by Kropotkin
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@Gloomy Found it. https://ecology.iww.org/PDF/Kropotkin/Mutual%20Aid.pdf Thanks
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@pianoplayingsteve it's still not capitalism. No animals are as greedy as to be capitalistic.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer What do animals do then? Create socialised animal health care? Tax a portion of their resources? Enact collectivised communication laws? Have socialised schools?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@pianoplayingsteve
Irrelevant.
I'm saying that our own behaviors are a result of nature. And you are attempting to interpret my words to make animals humans.
Even animals evolve to a degree, where some are more like us socially then other animals.
If you don't believe in evolution... well you have limited yourself to religion.
I believe religion was the direct result of a minority attempting to control the majority.
That's effectively capitalism at its worst. Because that's what capitalism does. Capitalism is an extension of religion as a means to control the majority.
They can't effectively control through religion, therefore capitalism is just as good.
Control through multiple methods is still control.
Nature doesn't attempt to control. Nor do animals.
Only humans do.
Even a weasel, which is known for thievery, only steals what it can use.
Not so humans! And especially not so capitalists!
The waste in capitalism is prevalent in it. It's an inseparable part of capitalism. Yet nature never wastes either. Everything gets recycled if it was made by nature.
So a capitalist steals unrelentlessly from nature, yet turns it into things that can't be easily recycled. Not by man, nor by nature itself.
Irrelevant.
I'm saying that our own behaviors are a result of nature. And you are attempting to interpret my words to make animals humans.
Even animals evolve to a degree, where some are more like us socially then other animals.
If you don't believe in evolution... well you have limited yourself to religion.
I believe religion was the direct result of a minority attempting to control the majority.
That's effectively capitalism at its worst. Because that's what capitalism does. Capitalism is an extension of religion as a means to control the majority.
They can't effectively control through religion, therefore capitalism is just as good.
Control through multiple methods is still control.
Nature doesn't attempt to control. Nor do animals.
Only humans do.
Even a weasel, which is known for thievery, only steals what it can use.
Not so humans! And especially not so capitalists!
The waste in capitalism is prevalent in it. It's an inseparable part of capitalism. Yet nature never wastes either. Everything gets recycled if it was made by nature.
So a capitalist steals unrelentlessly from nature, yet turns it into things that can't be easily recycled. Not by man, nor by nature itself.
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