Dementia patient in chief (Trump, adjudicated rapist) has decided embryos are the same as children . So answer me this:

You're a firefighter and you're responding to a fire at a fertility clinic or some such.
You enter the building and you see on your left, a 3 year old girl and on your right a tank full of hundreds of fertilized embryos ready and intended for implantation.
The tank and the girl both weigh roughly the same amount

Do you save the little girl or do you save the embryos?

If you truly consider the embryos to be human life then obviously you must save the hundreds of humans lives over the one.
If you would save the little girl then you must consider how truly you hold those embryos to be people.

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DLight

Oh God, what an utterly ridiculous, unlikely and moronic scenario! 🤣

I have a question for you. Since you clearly do not consider the yet-to-be-born to be equivalent to the rest of us when it comes to a basic right to live, at what point would you actually consider the taking of such life to be murder? At six months? Just before birth? Just after birth?
Please clarify, because I've yet to come across any "pro-lifer" who can adequately address this issue. I've never seen an answer to this all-important question.

Pikachu ·

@DLight

I promise to answer your question if you promise to answer mine.
Deal?

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

There was a similar situation here where the bomber targeted a fertility clinic.

The firefighters saved everything. Yes including every single embryo. Nothing died.

The clinic BTW is being rebuilt.

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@Pikachu I would even bother. They are fanatics. You don't reason with fanatics. 🤷🏻‍♂

Pikachu ·

@DeWayfarer

lol waaat? Binary bad but absolutes ok?

They're not all fanatics. There are many reasons why a person holds a belief. This question asks them to examine that belief.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@Pikachu Oh that's not binary, their reasoning is purely only one way. Their way! That others hold other beliefs doesn't matter to them. Fanatical.

I take a multidimensional way. At least infinites exist with that approach.

BTW it's binary bad and absolutes bad. Infinities ok!

Bumbles · 56-60, M

I hate embryos.

BiasForAction · M

Well this is a well designed study. Nothing unrealistic or biased here.

Pikachu ·

@BiasForAction

lol i don't think the sarcasm in necessary. Of course it's not a study.
What it IS, is a hypothetical question designed to examine how strongly a pro-lifer actually holds the belief that life begins at conception.

Did you have and answer or just a criticism?

BiasForAction · M

@Pikachu I think it’s a silly question and you could just easily ask someone if they are pro life instead of deciding it’s your job to test the depth of their belief. Why doubt they believe what they say they believe?

Sarcasm makes my point in much fewer words. If it makes you uncomfortable so be it.

Pikachu ·

@BiasForAction

lol hate to break it to you but if the snarky sarcasm had made your point in fewer words...you wouldn't have needed a bunch more words to justify it, hmmm?

My rebuttal to your criticism is that asking someone what they believe is far less informative than a practical examination of their espoused beliefs.
A person may label themselves one thing as a matter of identity but may not in fact align ideologically with that label.
No one is being forced to participate, so chill lol

Not sure why you find this upsetting but if it makes you uncomfortable then you're welcome to leave

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