Judges are forcing black women to have c sections in the middle of labor.

@Jackaloftheazuresand well said

@Jackaloftheazuresand I'm not trying to argue but suing doesn't make any sense because hospitals often dump patients off in the middle of the street. One woman on video laid cold under a blanket unresponsive still in her medical gown as security wheeled her out and dumped her. If it was that easy to sue hospitals then hospitals would be out of business because the people they dump are often in serious medical conditions in which they could unalive. I watched a news report from two years back over a woman who had a life threatening disease and they just tossed her out.

They also use different colored blankets to signal if someone has money or not and you never know what color you are according to hospitals. If it was that easy, we wouldn't have hospitals. Hospitals would have no money left if we could just sue.

Looking it up, I found that current laws already shield providers via informed consent doctrines, while Doyley's suit risk exists only if negligence is proven, not mere refusal outcomes. Full deregulation could spike harms from unqualified providers, clashing with evidence-based care, though it aligns with fetal-personhood limits on lawsuits for bad births. True autonomy balances rights without extremes that endanger lives.

Hospitals get distrusted by black people because of their history with racism and they do get more C sections due to medical neglect and less offered services:


But we often can't train bias and open up diverse staffing because whites will complain (I'm white myself but we tend to complain a lot if we teach people critical thinking skills.)

@Jackaloftheazuresand
Individual responsibility is fantastic and I agree with you but that is only fantastic if medical disparities were being actively closed or trying. Like I remember a video on how black people keep getting misdiagnosed because there's different issues that affect different groups of people. It was something specific, I wish I could remember as it's important to share now because it was something... maybe I can find it again but it did make me sad. It was a misdiagnosis and it was a video about how certain diseases affect groups differently and they weren't being properly treated.

So this goes way deeper, you can't have personal accountability if medical disparities exist and if we refuse to close the gaps on existing issues in the first place.

The whole thing about diversity was ended by Elon Musk and whites whining that minorities were taking their jobs they aren't signing up for now that it's officially dead.

@Zonuss Don't you send harassment DMs to women here who refuse to bow to your will

@SatanBurger They try to shield themselves but there are multiple cases where it wasn't enough and the jury found in the favor of the patient. Lawsuits are a risky game to get into which is why a lot of people with legitimate grievances still don't bring them. You got to take time off to appear in court and your lawyer has to be onboard with the strength they think they can build for your case since if you're poor and they can't win it then they won't get paid. But the hospitals don't know you, they don't know if you're a lone nobody or you have some vengeful uncle with free time and disposable income. They don't take risks they don't want to take.

A lot of things that get racialized are really just coincidence, quality of care being one. The black community isn't being targeted. What happened is slavery created the conditions for an underclass but the underclass built itself up miraculously but then white liberalist guilt fed the black populace a lie about continual oppression and infantilized them into oblivion so that they collapsed once again to their post slavery destitution then the generation that grew up in this new era taught their children that the man was always out to get them. Black people were taught to distrust authority so that they stopped approaching situations the way anyone else would. They fight with police, they fight with educators, they fight with each other and destroy their neighborhoods. The quality of their lives has been entirely in their hands if they would only individually take it upon themselves to do so. This is why there are black families who escaped the ghetto trap and they weren't all just rappers and athletes getting a lucky break. The disparity existing today is their own fault, acknowledging it is step one to that responsibility and escaping what was once the white man's fault but eventually was adopted.

@Jackaloftheazuresand After this comment was sent, Zonuss found a nice quiet post of mine and started talking about the abuse from my childhood, that's the kind of man he is

@Jackaloftheazuresand Personally and I'm not trying to sound insulting or fight with you. But your response leaves out decades of redlining by banks and landlords, unequal school funding, bias in policing and hiring, and the fact that wealth accumulates generationally ..which Black families were legally barred from doing until pretty recently.

The distrust of authority isn’t irrational either. It came from lived experiences like medical racism, police brutality, and government experiments that actually happened, Tuskegee being one:


And that was just 1972.

That kind of mistrust doesn’t just appear out of nowhere, it’s inherited trauma backed by pretty sound evidence to me.

Of course, personal responsibility matters and I'm also not trying to tell you otherwise. But I can also see cause and consequences too in how a system works.

Much like how the anti vaxx movement is responsible for all those cases of measles going around. Our system is the same way I believe with cause and consequences that must be corrected. We could easily mitigate these things.

For the record, the kind of person I am is that if it helps one community, it helps us all, that's how I look at things. I don't feel guilty cos I'm white, I do feel frustrated that things can easily be avoidable and if they aren't, then it's intentional. I don't like that.