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Judges are forcing black women to have c sections in the middle of labor.

In this video it talks about two cases, in two separate cases 20 people surrounded the black women in their hospital room and wheeled a computer in where a white judge forced both mothers to have c sections. They were then told to never have babies again and lawyers say they haven't heard from investigators in over a year. The women are then forced without their consent to surgery.

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@Scousspeter ? Why is this good?
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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
This is a fkng horror show. How is this making America great?
Zonuss · 46-50, M
The state Supreme Court can stop this. Or a government enforced petition.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Zonuss Well this happened a year ago and lawyers are still waiting for investigators. I think the reason we're hearing about this now is because someone released the zoom meeting footage as it's probably had enough time that they could legally maybe.

But honestly I don't think it's a coincidence that it's specfically black mothers, hospitals if you look it up, have purposely done dirty sh it to black mothers for a long time.

There's sorts of things going on, the Supreme Court just doesn't care or otherwise it would have been corrected by now
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger Yes. These atrocities are being exposed now. Social media is bringing awareness. Judgment coming for those who support this. ⭐
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger That's why people have guns.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
That’s the definition of dystopian
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Jackaloftheazuresand · 31-35, M
First thing we do is grant hospitals the right to refuse, then they can just kick these people out when they don't want to follow the medical team's advice without worrying about legal retaliation. Then we allow anyone who wants to perform surgery, the ability to do so without a license. Put all the power back into the patient's hands, that means no takebacks, no "I wasn't smart enough to make these decisions" therefore I can sue my doctor. This is the opportune time to get back into individual responsibility.

What will happen though is people will do what they always do, they sell their agency because it weighs too much and then they claim incompetence as an excuse for why somebody else is at fault rather than themselves any time they make a mistake. We can't have autonomy if you aren't allowed to fail, so let them fail and give them no recourse. If they can live with that then we all win. But if they want to return to the old system then they have to accept not being the master of their own fate. Right now if Doyley here died from her vaginal birth then her family can sue the hospital for allowing it to happen
Jackaloftheazuresand · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger They try to shield themselves but there are multiple cases where it wasn't enough and the jury found in the favor of the patient. Lawsuits are a risky game to get into which is why a lot of people with legitimate grievances still don't bring them. You got to take time off to appear in court and your lawyer has to be onboard with the strength they think they can build for your case since if you're poor and they can't win it then they won't get paid. But the hospitals don't know you, they don't know if you're a lone nobody or you have some vengeful uncle with free time and disposable income. They don't take risks they don't want to take.

A lot of things that get racialized are really just coincidence, quality of care being one. The black community isn't being targeted. What happened is slavery created the conditions for an underclass but the underclass built itself up miraculously but then white liberalist guilt fed the black populace a lie about continual oppression and infantilized them into oblivion so that they collapsed once again to their post slavery destitution then the generation that grew up in this new era taught their children that the man was always out to get them. Black people were taught to distrust authority so that they stopped approaching situations the way anyone else would. They fight with police, they fight with educators, they fight with each other and destroy their neighborhoods. The quality of their lives has been entirely in their hands if they would only individually take it upon themselves to do so. This is why there are black families who escaped the ghetto trap and they weren't all just rappers and athletes getting a lucky break. The disparity existing today is their own fault, acknowledging it is step one to that responsibility and escaping what was once the white man's fault but eventually was adopted.
Jackaloftheazuresand · 31-35, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand After this comment was sent, Zonuss found a nice quiet post of mine and started talking about the abuse from my childhood, that's the kind of man he is
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Jackaloftheazuresand Personally and I'm not trying to sound insulting or fight with you. But your response leaves out decades of redlining by banks and landlords, unequal school funding, bias in policing and hiring, and the fact that wealth accumulates generationally ..which Black families were legally barred from doing until pretty recently.

The distrust of authority isn’t irrational either. It came from lived experiences like medical racism, police brutality, and government experiments that actually happened, Tuskegee being one:

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study (1932–1972) was a profoundly racist and unethical U.S. Public Health Service experiment on 600 Black sharecroppers in Alabama. Researchers denied treatment for syphilis to 399 infected men, allowing the disease to ravage their health to observe its natural progression, resulting in over 100 deaths.

And that was just 1972.

That kind of mistrust doesn’t just appear out of nowhere, it’s inherited trauma backed by pretty sound evidence to me.

Of course, personal responsibility matters and I'm also not trying to tell you otherwise. But I can also see cause and consequences too in how a system works.

Much like how the anti vaxx movement is responsible for all those cases of measles going around. Our system is the same way I believe with cause and consequences that must be corrected. We could easily mitigate these things.

For the record, the kind of person I am is that if it helps one community, it helps us all, that's how I look at things. I don't feel guilty cos I'm white, I do feel frustrated that things can easily be avoidable and if they aren't, then it's intentional. I don't like that.
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
Where do you come up with all this BS?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@fanuc2013 The news sweetie.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
This is far more than just an abortion issue or just a race issue though. This is totally what they call a "States rights" issue as this supreme Court has ruled it.

The states can make health any laws they wish and the federal government must allow it. There's nothing in the constitution that mentions anything about health issues.

Nothing! 🤷🏻‍♂

You think that what is in the preamble of the constitution really matters? It's not a right.

Focusing only on medical procedures:

Dobbs (2022) removed a constitutional right to abortion, returning regulation of abortion procedures to individual states. That means states may prohibit, restrict, or permit abortion under their own laws unless a separate constitutional protection applies.

The Court’s recent federalism and standing decisions make it harder for federal courts to find implied constitutional rights or allow private suits to block state medical‑procedure laws, which increases states’ leeway to regulate clinical practice.

Limits remain where other constitutional provisions apply (e.g., the Due Process Clause, Equal Protection) — those can sometimes constrain state regulation of medical procedures, but the Court has been narrowing such protections unless clearly grounded in text or history.

Federal statutes that directly regulate medical procedures (rare) or federal agency rules can preempt state rules if Congress acted within its constitutional powers; but absent such clear federal authority, states have primary control over what medical procedures are lawful within their borders.

Bottom line: For the legality of medical procedures themselves (not payment), recent Supreme Court rulings have shifted authority largely to the states, though constitutional limits and any clear federal statutory preemption can still restrict state action.

I have been saying all a long that states can even dictate which religion can be used within the states.

And that is exactly what is happening.

You're right that several states (Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas and others) have passed laws requiring Ten Commandments displays in public schools and those laws are now being litigated in the federal courts; some district courts enjoined enforcement, while the 5th Circuit has taken up/issued rulings that allow or revive enforcement in parts of its circuit, and plaintiffs have asked the U.S. Supreme Court to hear the appeals. The Supreme Court is not required to take any case, so these disputes can remain in lower courts for months or years while posters are installed in some schools.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer I don't have time to rehash all the racial disparities black people have in hospitals and it's easy to look it up. We're probably both correct
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@SatanBurger oh I agree there are racial issues. Just that it's a far bigger problem than just race.

The forest fire is just too massive to see the whole fire. And there's zero containment on that fire currently.
We were seventy girls in labor but... Never look at a shunned PERSON'S post! Nothing is what you must see here, not sees. Yep.

 
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