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JSul3 · 70-79
How some Texas teachers are fighting the Ten Commandments law in classrooms:
As public schools begin hanging posters of the religious doctrine in classrooms, some teachers are finding creative alternatives to sidestep or dodge the legislation.
A Ten Commandments poster that hangs in one suburban Dallas teacher’s classroom is surrounded by hot-pink placards featuring tenets from Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam.
A substitute teacher north of Houston is sending her twin daughters to school wearing First Amendment buttons and offering the same pins to other children in their neighborhood.
Meanwhile, a teacher in southeast Texas said she’s playing a “risky game” after deciding she won’t display the Ten Commandments in her classroom at all. But if she must, she said, she will hang it upside down.
These quiet acts of defiance are unfolding as a new Republican-crafted state law — known as Senate Bill 10 — takes effect this month requiring Texas public elementary and secondary schools to hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom. A school district “must accept any offer of a privately donated poster,” otherwise it “may, but is not required to, purchase posters” using district funds, the law states.
It’s unclear how many districts have complied with the law since the start of the school year.
In addition, a handful of school districts where parents and faith leaders have filed legal challenges remain exempt from the mandate as federal litigation plays out. The plaintiffs contend that forcing the Ten Commandments into public schools is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.
It’s unclear how many districts have complied with the law since the start of the school year.
In addition, a handful of school districts where parents and faith leaders have filed legal challenges remain exempt from the mandate as federal litigation plays out. The plaintiffs contend that forcing the Ten Commandments into public schools is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.
Source: NBC News
As public schools begin hanging posters of the religious doctrine in classrooms, some teachers are finding creative alternatives to sidestep or dodge the legislation.
A Ten Commandments poster that hangs in one suburban Dallas teacher’s classroom is surrounded by hot-pink placards featuring tenets from Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam.
A substitute teacher north of Houston is sending her twin daughters to school wearing First Amendment buttons and offering the same pins to other children in their neighborhood.
Meanwhile, a teacher in southeast Texas said she’s playing a “risky game” after deciding she won’t display the Ten Commandments in her classroom at all. But if she must, she said, she will hang it upside down.
These quiet acts of defiance are unfolding as a new Republican-crafted state law — known as Senate Bill 10 — takes effect this month requiring Texas public elementary and secondary schools to hang the Ten Commandments in every classroom. A school district “must accept any offer of a privately donated poster,” otherwise it “may, but is not required to, purchase posters” using district funds, the law states.
It’s unclear how many districts have complied with the law since the start of the school year.
In addition, a handful of school districts where parents and faith leaders have filed legal challenges remain exempt from the mandate as federal litigation plays out. The plaintiffs contend that forcing the Ten Commandments into public schools is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.
It’s unclear how many districts have complied with the law since the start of the school year.
In addition, a handful of school districts where parents and faith leaders have filed legal challenges remain exempt from the mandate as federal litigation plays out. The plaintiffs contend that forcing the Ten Commandments into public schools is an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.
Source: NBC News
KunsanVeteran · M
@JSul3 I believe Louisiana passed a similar law.
And isn’t there legislation in Texas to make prayer and Bible reading mandatory?
I can’t imagine that such laws would survive a Constitutional challenge.
And isn’t there legislation in Texas to make prayer and Bible reading mandatory?
I can’t imagine that such laws would survive a Constitutional challenge.
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@KunsanVeteran
There are countless evil passages in the Bible and Jesus said to do your praying in private, in a closet, not in public. So a clever teacher could have loads of fun complying with the law by simply reading all of the evil passages.
And isn’t there legislation in Texas to make prayer and Bible reading mandatory?
There are countless evil passages in the Bible and Jesus said to do your praying in private, in a closet, not in public. So a clever teacher could have loads of fun complying with the law by simply reading all of the evil passages.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Where in The Constitution does it say there shall be a seperation of church and State?
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649
The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution, but the principle is enshrined in the First Amendment through the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause. These clauses prohibit the government from establishing an official religion or interfering with the free exercise of religion.
(Stanford Law School)
Key Constitutional Foundations:
Establishment Clause (First Amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."
Free Exercise Clause (First Amendment): "...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Article VI, Clause 3: Prohibits religious tests for holding public office.
(United States Courts (.gov))
Origin of the Phrase:
The phrase originates from a 1802 letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association, where he referred to the First Amendment as creating a "wall of separation between Church and State".
(Freedom Forum)
Legal Interpretation:
The Supreme Court formally adopted this interpretation in Everson v. Board of Education (1947), establishing that the government cannot set up a church, aid any religion, or force individuals to participate in religious activities.
Anything else, Sport?
The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the U.S. Constitution, but the principle is enshrined in the First Amendment through the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause. These clauses prohibit the government from establishing an official religion or interfering with the free exercise of religion.
(Stanford Law School)
Key Constitutional Foundations:
Establishment Clause (First Amendment): "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."
Free Exercise Clause (First Amendment): "...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Article VI, Clause 3: Prohibits religious tests for holding public office.
(United States Courts (.gov))
Origin of the Phrase:
The phrase originates from a 1802 letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association, where he referred to the First Amendment as creating a "wall of separation between Church and State".
(Freedom Forum)
Legal Interpretation:
The Supreme Court formally adopted this interpretation in Everson v. Board of Education (1947), establishing that the government cannot set up a church, aid any religion, or force individuals to participate in religious activities.
Anything else, Sport?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Yeah, it does say no State run religion, so folks are free to worship whatever religion they wish, eh
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649 Yes they are, and you already know this.
It is not the state or federal governments right to mandate any religious teachings in the public schools.
It is not the state or federal governments right to mandate any religious teachings in the public schools.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 I see, State funded schools have no say what is taught in State funded schools, only State sponsered administrators are permitted to dictate cirriculim, right?
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649
Public school curriculum in the U.S. is primarily determined at the state and local levels, not by the federal government. States set broad educational standards (e.g., TEKS in Texas), while locally elected school boards and district administrators choose specific materials, textbooks, and instructional methods to meet those standards.
(Texas.gov)
Key stakeholders involved include:
State Boards of Education/Departments of Education: Set state-level academic standards and content requirements (e.g., TEKS in Texas).
Local School Boards & Superintendents: Adopt specific curricula, textbooks, and approve courses, with significant control over local school policies.
Teachers & Educators: Make daily instructional decisions and select teaching methods to implement the curriculum.
Parents & Community Members: Provide feedback during reviews and meetings to shape final decisions.
(Texas.gov)
While state and local authorities hold the power, they may adopt voluntary national standards like Common Core. States like Texas create their own, often using state-level reviews to adopt standards for subjects including English Language Arts, math, science, and social studies.
Public schools are primarily funded by a combination of state (roughly 44–45%) and local (roughly 42–43%) governments, with the remaining 10-14% provided by federal funds. Local funding largely comes from property taxes, while state funding comes from income and sales taxes.
Federal funding is typically targeted for specific student needs.
Public school curriculum in the U.S. is primarily determined at the state and local levels, not by the federal government. States set broad educational standards (e.g., TEKS in Texas), while locally elected school boards and district administrators choose specific materials, textbooks, and instructional methods to meet those standards.
(Texas.gov)
Key stakeholders involved include:
State Boards of Education/Departments of Education: Set state-level academic standards and content requirements (e.g., TEKS in Texas).
Local School Boards & Superintendents: Adopt specific curricula, textbooks, and approve courses, with significant control over local school policies.
Teachers & Educators: Make daily instructional decisions and select teaching methods to implement the curriculum.
Parents & Community Members: Provide feedback during reviews and meetings to shape final decisions.
(Texas.gov)
While state and local authorities hold the power, they may adopt voluntary national standards like Common Core. States like Texas create their own, often using state-level reviews to adopt standards for subjects including English Language Arts, math, science, and social studies.
Public schools are primarily funded by a combination of state (roughly 44–45%) and local (roughly 42–43%) governments, with the remaining 10-14% provided by federal funds. Local funding largely comes from property taxes, while state funding comes from income and sales taxes.
Federal funding is typically targeted for specific student needs.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 And the taxpayers have no say in what is being taught in their schools?
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649 They do and they don't want the 10 Commandments or any religion taught in the secular public schools and they are not keen on vouchers for rich people to subsidize sending their kids to private schools.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Seems to us that the people elected people that wanted certain things in their schools
JSul3 · 70-79
@sunsporter1649
In Texas, the people were not given the option to vote on school vouchers. The Republican legislature refused to place it on the ballot for Texans to vote on it.
Why?
Because the majority of Texans do not support their tax dollars going to rich people to send their kids to private schools.
Public Opinion:
Pro-voucher measures have historically failed to win majority support on many state ballots.
Market Trends: Research suggests that expanding vouchers can lead to the stratification of the education market by income level.
(Harvard Graduate School of Education)
In Texas, the people were not given the option to vote on school vouchers. The Republican legislature refused to place it on the ballot for Texans to vote on it.
Why?
Because the majority of Texans do not support their tax dollars going to rich people to send their kids to private schools.
Public Opinion:
Pro-voucher measures have historically failed to win majority support on many state ballots.
Market Trends: Research suggests that expanding vouchers can lead to the stratification of the education market by income level.
(Harvard Graduate School of Education)
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 What does that have to do with the subject at hand?
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 When?
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