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The typical American worker has $955 saved for retirement. But why?




Photo above - record international audiences are expected to tune in for today's Superbowl.


God bless the US Census Bureau, and a think tank called The National Institute on Retirement, and CBS news. Through their combined efforts we have learned that the average American has only $955 saved for retirement. (see link at bottom)

Before I reflexively blame the usual suspects (drugs, mobile gambling, and DoorDash), lets do a deeper dive. How about the people who DO have 401K and/or IRA accounts? There is good news –turns that a whopping 68% of American adults have a tax deferred retirement account. Far more than I’d have guessed. The bad news? The median balance is $40K. So that means that almost everyone has next to zero in their account.

How far does $40K go in retirement? Nobody actually knows. But the government says we need $1.1 million in that 401K to stay out of poverty. And we should probably withdraw only 4% a year. So that’s about $40,000 in annual withdrawals. Congrats – at the end of year 1 your balance would be zero. (Disclaimer - future inflation is not accounted for in these numbers.)

I totally get what The National Institute for Retirement is trying to tell us. Open a 401K, and max out your contributions. But what the link doesn’t talk about is why that’s impossible. Even without fentanyl, Doordash, and FanDuel, over half of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Taxes on those paychecks build space telescopes and armies, while our schools crumble. We have 800 military bases around the world but can’t protect anyone from terrorism or invasion. Ukraine is down to 4 hours of electricity per day, in the middle of the coldest winter in decades. NATO, what the hell???

The US national debt is over $38 trillion. $400,000 for every family. 10 times larger than the average 401K. Maybe the problem ISNT that we’re not saving enough. Maybe it’s all the money spent by congress on things nobody wants or needs?

Superbowl fan alert: Good seats are still available. Unsold tickets are dropping to bargain prices. Some are nearly below $3,000. if you find that you still cannot afford to attend in person, please don’t bet all your spare change at sites like FanDuel.

I’m just sayin’ . . .


The typical American worker has $955 saved for retirement

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/the-typical-american-worker-has-955-saved-for-retirement/ar-AA1VLUac?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Best advice I ever got -- from an uncle who was like a second father to me -- was to set aside 10% of what I earned for retirement starting immediately, no matter how hard I thought it was. "It sounds big," he said, "but that is only a dime out of each dollar. Pocket change, most likely squandered on some impulse purchase you don't really need."

The first few years were difficult, Seldom had the latest materialistic crap that was trendy. But my employer was matching it for the IRA, and when I could I increased it to the max of 25%. Been retired 30 years and still living comfortably on it.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@dancingtongue good advice. 10% is in the same zone as a 6% 401K contribution, and a matching 50% (additional 3%) match from the corporation.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Most people aren't actually paid that much. And many have a vague idea of personal finance. Many who had retirement accounts had to liquidate them to cover periods of unemployment.

Some think lottery winnings are an excuse for planning for retirement.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Crazywaterspring high school doesn't prepare anyone to make a balanced personal budget, or invest wisely
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida True. Unless their parents teach them kids know more about calculus than money.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Crazywaterspring we are devolving into specialists. people who only know how to do one thing: coding, doctor, amazon picker, lawyer, plumber . . .

we all rely on specialists for money advice and tax prep. AI is being positioned to supply all that advice, and displace more humons.
Subsumedpat · 41-45, M
Is mostly psychological supported by government assistance. Has a sad ending for all too when we run out of other peoples money to spend.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Subsumedpat congress has a plan for this: keep increasing the amount of other people's money which is taxed, and spend it on things which no public opinion poll supports.
Subsumedpat · 41-45, M
@SusanInFlorida Well if they do that and keep increasing the tax the economy will be ok but the people will suffer up to a point when they can no longer do that. In 2024 we spent 13% of our total budget to service the debt, by the end of fiscal year 2026 that figure is expected to reach 19%. There comes a point where rapid failure happens. When you get to a point that simply raising the tax rate no longer covers the spread they just print money which causes inflation and a lack of confidence in the dollar reflected in having to pay higher interest rates to borrow the money and the burden increases at a rate we can not handle. This leads to economic collapse.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Subsumedpat the amount of the federal budget just to pay interest on the national debt is one of the key reasons Trump is desperate to insert a Fed Chairman who will lower interest rates.

when one looks at interest payments on just the discretionary part of the budget, it's more than 14%. discretionary spending is only 26% of the budget. Non-discretionary (entitlements) is over 60%. things like social security, medicare, medicaid, VA hospitals, etc
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
I dont believe that $955 number
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@AmericanAvenger you didn't bother to click on the link?

great - you're playing the game as it was intended. comment without reading!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
What would happen to that typical American once that very modest $955 has gone? Does the USA have any sort of State Pension?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ArishMell its called social security. the average monthly benefit is around $1,600. the benefits rise each year. and are indexed for inflation. the social security fund meets the legal definition of bankrupt, since obligations outnumber assets.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Thankyou for explaining it.

I imagine how well anyone can live on it varies considerably by individual and location, but I know the British equivalent, called the "State Pension", is not overly generous. It is indexed,so does rise annually, but not by much.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ArishMell the original concept/precepts of US social security.

1 - set the eligibility age at 65, because the average lifespan was only 67

2 - living was cheap - medical expenses and rent and food were a pittance

3 - widows could always go live with their adult children, and sign over their social security benefits to them in exchange for room and board.
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kittee · 26-30
thats mad you need at least $10k
Zonuss · 46-50, M
The average American bank account has $5,000.
Not 900.
MethDozer · M
@Zonuss Retirement. For retirment
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@MethDozer I see people with money.💰
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jshm2 taming the chinese wuhan covid 19 virus has increased the average lifespan. keeping fentanyl out would help even more.

 
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