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Is a college degree now the worst investment you can make?



Photo above - a future grad begins to question the value of his humanities degree from Faber College . . . .

What is your college degree (or even high school diploma) worth if you used ChatGPT to write your papers, and the professor used AI to grade them? Well, here we are (see link below).

Of course, employers and recruiters are also using AI to screen and reject almost every resume'. According to some reports less than 1% of job applications are ever referred to human for further review. In response, there are now apps to help you defeat the resume' screening process.

Predictably colleges are losing their $hit. When I went with sister and her daughter on a college evaluation road trip a few years ago, the first stop on the campus tour was the indoor rock-climbing wall adjacent to the new cafeteria. I am so NOT making this up. (This was Kent State University. I’m not making THAT up, either.)

This answer is not going to involve better systems to detect AI plagiarized homework and research papers. Or universal basic income for poly sci grads who got fired from their jobs as Starbucks baristas for constantly starting arguments with customers who have the wrong brand of clothing logo visible. The jobs of the future are probably going to be uniformed police officers. Firemen. Ambulance staff. ICE agents – those are the guys ditching their shopping mall guard jobs for a $20,000 pay bump and the chance to carry a real pistol on their belt. You didn’t think those guys were leaving real police positions to chase down people in freezing Minnesota and spend the night in a Springhill Suites $129 a night room at the end of the day, did you?

There was a funny story last week. Someone was hired even though she realized that her credentials were not top-rung. Pleasantly surprised, she asked the manager why. “Because you greeted and spoke to several people in our office by name, after observing their badges. That’s the sort of people skill that makes a difference.”

I’m just sayin’ . . .


https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-college-internships-jobs

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/ai-is-destroying-the-university-and-learning-itself



AI is Destroying the University and Learning Itself

It's Starting to Look Like AI Has Killed the Entire Model of College
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
My mother was a school teacher. Started in a one-room school in ranching country. She always said "an education is very important, but horse sense is more important".

The basic problem, imho, is not AI, nor "junk degrees". It is economics: from the idea you need a college degree, any old degree, to qualify for any job, no matter how basic, to the withdrawal of public funding for public universities, to the predatory, credit card -type scam of "student loans" intended to keep you paying off the interest rates for a lifetime.

I attended what was then, and still now in many polls/studies, the #1 university (or at least #! public university) in the U.S. As a state resident, there was no tuition. Only a minimal "incidental fees" each semester to cover health care services at the campus infirmary/hospital and a portion to the student government which actually ran the athletic programs, the student union, and other such "amenities". (Rock climbing was left to a huge rock not far from campus in a public park, where the renaissance of rock climbing was just catching on.)

Then Reagan became Governor. And in his backlash against student protests -- along with the National Guard, tear gas, and tanks -- came the significant cutting of public funding for the university and college system on the one hand, and the University taking ownership of the amenities previously run by the students. To survive financially, the university instituted ever-increasing in-state tuition, turned to wooing out-of-state, primarily foreign students who would pay higher tuition, became more about winning and running research & development contracts for the Federal Government and major corporations, and -- of course, turning student-athletes into professionals where coaches earned millions more than actual professors all in search of "brand identification" and TV contracts. Now students couldn't afford to come, so the Feds stepped in with a student loan program geared to saddling them to paying interest only for most of their lives if they couldn't pay it off quickly.

And the marketing became focused more on the amenities than the education.

There is nothing wrong with "junk degrees". A valid purpose of universities throughout history has been to advance philosophy, history, arts and language -- our culture -- and not just prepare you for a job. It prepares you also to be a more knowledgeable contributor to community and society. If anything, the science and technical students need it more than anyone to broaden their views on life and to become more empathetic.

We forced universities into becoming more marketing oriented, and kids into thinking they needed a degree to get a job. We need to get back to supporting public education, and the concept that there are multiple tracks for jobs -- junior colleges, even high schools, can provide the vocational skills for a good portion of the job market. Stop seeing education as a way to financially hooking students into life-long debt but as a way of uplifting all of society and expanding the middle class once again.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@dancingtongueA valid purpose of universities throughout history has been to advance philosophy, history, arts and language --

I understand your point, also like my wife said, her clients like seeing her degrees on the wall.

Although she says they mean nothing, it does put her clients at ease.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@DogMan If she is in a profession where having degrees on the wall reassures clients/patients it probably means more than just putting them at ease. When the nonprofit prepaid health care system I worked for was still struggling to be accepted, one of the things we did was make sure copies of all medical degrees were posted in every exam room to overcome the perception that our physicians came from second-rate and/or foreign medical schools, had no specialist training, etc. To overcome the public perception that because we were cheaper we must be second rate. In actuality, most of our physicians came from top name medical schools, interned and did residencies at top named medical centers. They chose us because they could focus on patient care rather than the economic games of for-profit, fee-for-service medicine.

But I get your -- and your wife's -- point. As a lawyer friend once said to me, "law school never taught me where the courthouse door was".
DogMan · 61-69, M
@dancingtongue My wife owns an Accounting & Finance company. She has degrees in both
along with a Business management degree.

I'm very lucky to have her as I own a construction company. I am one of her worst clients 😂
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@DogMan My late wife had a Business Management degree also, and owned & managed her own business before we were married. Despite managing a million dollar budget at work, I was not allowed to touch our checkbook. I was fortunate to have her as well. 🥲
DogMan · 61-69, M
@dancingtongue I hear ya buddy. I bid million dollar projects, but when it comes to the

Accounting, I stay far away.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@DogMan Perhaps I should have hung my certificate in Executive Management from the Stanford Graduate School of Business Administration on the bedroom wall. 🤪