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Retirement experts say the US is past the point where we can fix Social Security



Photo above - Problem? What problem? Presidents and congress have reduced social security taxes and increased benefits repeatedly, despite warnings of insolvency.

We have good news and bad news. The good news is that it will be “politically impossible” to reduce social security benefits in order to keep the system from going broke. That’s good news if you’re currently living on Social Security benefits. If those checks are reduced, millions of people will instantly be dragged below the poverty line. This will mean election day chaos, not to mention homelessness and hunger.

This is also the bad news, of course. A bankrupt system won’t pay benefits in the future to Gen XYZ and millennials. This means their social security taxes and the retirement age will both need increase. This seems in line with FDR’s original intent. In his era lifespans were so short we were supposed to die quickly, instead of collecting benefits for decades.

This was apparent as a problem early on. President Jimmy Carter, Americas most famous nuclear peanut farmer, signed a Social Security change in 1977 to reduce benefits for people born after 1924. A realist. And deeply unpopular for his economic policies.

Bill Clinton massively increased social security taxes during his administration. It was not a popular move either.

President Obama signed several temporary social security tax reductions as a ploy to help democrats win elections during his term. Critics were already pointing out the future insolvency of the program when he did this. The audacity of . . . something.

President Biden – on his last day in office – allegedly signed an increase in Social Security benefits. Or it may have been an auto-pen signing. Those records are sealed. He also signed 2,500 prisoner pardons - the most of any president in history.

President Trump just dumped a $6,000 social security windfall into the lap of almost every senior citizen over 65. If your tax rate is 22%, and it's a married couple both over 65, guess how much this is worth . . .

What’s my point? Everyone knows social security is paying out benefits faster – a LOT faster – than it’s collecting revenue. Yet presidents and congress continue to use the system as a cheap trick to harvest votes in election years.

So what does the author of the link below (“thought leader and economist”) Teresa Ghilarducci recommend? Start saving more for your retirement. Duh . . .

Someone will say that any government this corrupt and stupid which keeps using social security to swing elections deserves to have it’s retirement programs fail. I think that grannies and grandpa’s are too old to start saving now, and don’t belong on the street.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/this-retirement-expert-says-the-us-is-past-the-point-where-we-can-fix-social-security-what-she-recommends-instead/ar-AA1USMFd?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6976092fab76497c8922f9e722fc914e&ei=106

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R41648/R41648.27.pdf


This retirement expert says the US is 'past the point where we can fix Social Security.' What she recommends instead

Social Security: Temporary Payroll Tax Reduction
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jehova · 36-40, M
The solution which I’ve always advocated is self sufficiency and isolationism. Maybe the Social Security system would be solvent except for constant war funding, entangled alliances, and foreign investments.
A) support the troops bring them home
B) redirect all the war spending to domestic issues infrastructure and debt payments.
C) a flat tax on all income over minimum wage; currently $7.25 an hour federal
AND
D) set maximum age for political office; retirement age is 65 yet some representatives are in the late 70s and even early 80s.
Solutions exist but no one wants to try something else!
Ah 1st world problem(s)
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jehova its fascism anytime citizens start shooting at unarmed citizens, or government agents start shooting at unarmed citizens.
jehova · 36-40, M
@SusanInFlorida hence the current America is facist! 2 examples of civilian CITIZENS being shot with no weapon on their person That’s what’s been happening lately
1 a nurse the other a mother ((Alex Pretti
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Blackie · 51-55, M
Windfall was repealed under Biden. It should have been thoroughly thought over before having been put in place. It was unfair but a form of it was needed to reign in the political hacks on a fast track thru govt servant promotions.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I’m 55 and I’ll be lucky to get 75 cents of every dollar owed me in SS. For those younger it’s less.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@AthrillatheHunt it's uncertain how much will be paid out. what IS certain is that SS tax rates will go up, and retirement ages.
A yes. The "Social security is broke" fear mongering that the right has been claiming for at least 20 years now.

And if you look at everyone making this argument they all want to hand over the money to Wall St to gamble with.

No conflict of interest here.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow spending more than you take in (negative cash flow) never ends well. that's the status of the Social Security trust fund right now. it wasn't the case 20 years ago.
@SusanInFlorida This is exactly the same argument made in 2005.
BohoBabe · M
We really shouldn't even have social security, but until all essential services are free, we need it.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@BohoBabe imagine how many people would be on the street without social security. that's the nature of entitlements. you become dependent on them.

no imagine what happens if "all essential services are free". everyone is dependent on free stuff - not just the old and feeble.
BohoBabe · M
@SusanInFlorida Part of society is people being dependent on free stuff. We're dependent on cops, firefighters, the post office, and so on.
SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M
Uh huh. 🙄

Been saying that for 40 some years now. Still paying out....
MarineBob · 61-69, M
Are retirement experts even retired?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@MarineBob all the people running our government are old enough to be: trump, schumer, jerome powell . . . .
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wildbill83 everybody who appears on TV does so for money, and is paid a lot more than ordinary people. everybody.
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wildbill83 my advice is always free. and i've been wrong for 2 presidential terms (at least) ab out the iimpending stock market correction.

I'm worse than a stopped clock.
Markmywurdz · 56-60, M
It’s starting to look as though the USA is past the point where it can be fixed in general.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Markmywurdz no foolin'. One of my neighbor's kids is ranting about how "change is coming" and he will take to the streets to push it forward.

he hasn't worked in 5 years, and is a daily substance abuser. he wants to buy a gun. i'm trying to find out the name of his therapist to weigh in on this.
YoMomma ·
if we cut all the wasteful embezzlers out of the government pockets then we will all be fine.. deep dive into every money outlet with a fine tooth comb 😒
MarineBob · 61-69, M
@YoMomma Musk tried that
YoMomma ·
@MarineBob there's a lot like probably 90% is bs scammers raking out money from the government programs
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@YoMomma everybody agrees this is a good idea.

but one party's essential base turns out to be the other party's wasteful embezzlers.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@mom321 I’ll never be able to unsee that
At age 45 I would have waived all future social security benefits in exchange for never paying social security taxes again. The ex post facto changing of IRA distribution rules for children of dead IRA owners will make the government dramatically more revenue. A huge ripoff to change the rules AFTER money was put in an IRA.
Are you saying this hypothetical Joe also would not take full advantage of the enhanced catch up provisions? @SusanInFlorida
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jackjjackson joe lives in apartment. he's divorced with child support payments. he's not trying to catch up on anything.
Yep that’s what I thought you were saying. So you are happy to pay for Joe with your tax dollars despite him getting no financial adviser getting himself into his situation and doing nothing to improve it? Quite generous of you! . @SusanInFlorida

 
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