Nobody seems to be asking the right question after Trump said NATO has done nothing for the USA.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, then. Thank you for letting me know that every American president has been equally as bad as Trump. Given the fact that I've lived here in the US my entire life, I didn't realize that. I guess it's just business as usual here.

What would you like to educate me on next? Are you going to explain to me how the sky is really orange?

@ItsMeMorgue Apparently you need to be educated on the difference between domestic and foreign policy.

Trump is horrible to the American people domestically , but that is irrelevant to this discussion.


Do you think Gitmo was suddenly a nice place because Obama gave good speeches and had charisma?

Or that his drone strikes and the surge in Iraq were suddenly less lethal because he was a nice guy?

On foreign policy literally nothing has changed in 25 years.

And the fact that you make this all about the experience of Americans in the empire proper exposes a bias that just like those presidents the lives you value more are your own countrymen.

Who cares if Canadians or Brits die for Halliburton's stock price.

Do you think people in colonial India were worried about the feelings of people in London?

My friends and family haven't spent my literal entire life fighting and some dying in pointless American wars because Trump was mean.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm just going by what you said, that this president is just as bad as every other president. Are you now walking that back?
Oh, you mean that prison he said he would shut down, and then he actually shut it down, and then a hostile Republican Congress basically forced him to be reopen it by voting against moving all those prisoners to US soil? Yeah, that's a really great example, but not the way you think it is.
I value my own life, thank you very much. And as this current president has made it clear he thinks people like me are domestic terrorists, I feel like that concern is valid. But do feel free to go on lecturing me, all because I don't kiss the ring of your big daddy Vladdy.
Well, then, I suppose I'll just pop off and kіӏӏ myself, since I'm not important.

Or you could admit that this has all been one great big distraction to avoid talking about the fact that Russia, having successfully invaded and occupied Crimea, is now invading Ukraine to occupy and threatening to invade anyone else who interferes.

But you don't like talking about that.

Just like you don't like talking about the fact that the original invasion was just an incursion for a couple of weeks. (I've heard that one before. Everybody always says it's only going to last a couple of weeks, and then they're on your property in their filthy trailer storing garbage everywhere for the next 3 years.)

Just like you don't like talking about the fact that Putin left the peace talks and probably launched another missile strike on Kiev.

Just like you are stuck in the past, bringing up things from 80 years ago, because your goldfish-sized attention span coupled with your fanboi fetish for dear old Папочка won't allow you to admit that he's the villain of the piece.

@ItsMeMorgue No you are not. I specified that as far as foreign policy is concerned Trump is no different which is objectively true.


I am not walking anything back you are misrepresenting my argument.


He did not shut down anything. He made a pretty speech said "we tortured some folks" and gave everyone a pass.


And of course you move the goalpost by not actually engaging the actual argument.


And again. You make the empire about you. That sucks but it has nothing to do with the discussion.


And again doubling down on making this about you.

And now yet another distraction with Russia that has nothing to do with anything and even getting that factually wrong.


I don't discuss completely irrelevant attempts to hijack a discussion.



I am stuck in the past? You are the one convinced you still live in the cold war. Not me.


I brought up history because the points I made are actually relevant. How your country has seen us as disposable cannon fodder for 80 years and still demand absolute loyalty with nothing in return.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I certainly didn't see where you specified that, but I definitely disagree, because now he's bullying Greenland and Venezuela and any other country he thinks he should be in charge of. We're definitely not seeing business as usual, and if you are, you need to take the hate colored glasses off.
I love how you always say that, as if I can't simply screenshot what you said. And then when I actually do screenshot you, you claim that what you said wasn't what you meant.
He attempted to shut it down, but was prevented from doing so by hostile members of Congress who wanted to continue torturing folks. But by all means, keep lying. It suits you.
Maybe if it wasn't the same tired, previously debunked argument, I might feel obligated to engage it. But you're like a broken record. You know what a record is, right? It's those round flat black things.
I could say the same, Canucklehead.
You're lucky I don't have the same rule, or I'd never say a word to you.
Refresh my memory. In what decade of the Cold War did Putin walk out of a peace talk and immediately order a missile strike on Kiev?

Yeah. Thought so.

@ItsMeMorgue I suppose there is one single era where Ukraine is relevant to this discussion.


When members of congress gleefully pointed out that this war is great because they get their war to bleed Russia and they got to make another country do all the dying.

And you have made it very clear you are totally cool with that attitude.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You have made it clear that you think the solution is for everybody to stand aside and let Russia erase Ukraine from the map, so you don't get to pretend to be concerned for the Ukrainian people.

@ItsMeMorgue Lying again. As usual Corvis.

It is your American empire that demands Ukraine fight and die to the last Ukrainian even though they have even stated they knew from day one Ukraine would lose and victory was never the point.

And if anyone is erasing Ukraine it is the US empire demanding they keep fighting a war they were never intended to win till there are no Ukrainians left.

Again. I am not the one demanding they die to a man for your empire. That is all on you. I am not the one demanding they be cannon fodder for your foreign policy.

Again. That is all for your empire. The same one that demands Canadians die for the American stock market.

Also an interesting blind spot that the American proxy you are most concerned about is mostly white.

@ItsMeMorgue Oh and that strike on Kiev you want to pretend is genocidal resulted in single digital casualties according to even the Canadian media which is practically run by the Banderite faction of the diaspora.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Dictators can have a little missile strike on the capital as a treat.

@ItsMeMorgue You love being wrong about everything. Conspiracy theories about a leader you hate simply because you have been told to hate them and you obey without question.

And Zelensky unilaterally canceling elections in violation of the constitution and banning and or jailing his opposition charging just about everyone including the former president of treason and exiling his former top military officer to England because he has better poll numbers.

You are really terrible at this propaganda thing.

@ItsMeMorgue And since you need to be educated on the Ukrainian constitution too. It only provides for suspension of elections to the Rada. Basically the equivalent of state or provincial elections. Nowhere has it ever allowed for the cancellation of Presidential elections. Even one of the people who literally helped write it was critical of this.

Ukraine has also being in a state of civil war since 2014. Suddenly Zelensky unilaterally declares elections cancelled when he was going to lose. In fact even current polls show his support is in the toilet.

He also lied his way into power.


And if you listen to what he actually says he has placed conditions on reinstating elections to conditions that will never happen effectively making himself president for life.

Oh and literally every dictator in history has said "don't worry, it is temporary."



Oh and you say Putin kills his opposition? Weird, Gennady Zyuganov is still very much alive.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So you think in the middle of an invasion by a hostile foreign power is a great time to change horses?
You mean like how Putin said the invasion would only be temporary?

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow That's not the same thing as having an election during an invasion by a hostile foreign power with an expansionist dictator at the helm.

@ItsMeMorgue And again you are making up narratives on the fly and making excuses to justify dictatorship.

And you completely ignored facts that don't fit your narrative.

I guess right wing dictators are fine with you as long as they fit your pro American imperial narratives of cliches and movie tropes.

And again words have definitions that are not defined by your feelings.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Are you seriously trying to say there was no invasion now? Really? Because we all have TVs.
What facts are those? You literally just compared the American Civil War to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Seems to me I'm not the one ignoring facts, sweetie.
If I was good with right-wing dictators, I'd be right at home with the current US regime, instead of coming dangerously close to a heart attack every time I read the news.
Yeah, you and Daddy Donald are fond of telling people that facts don't care about their feelings, right before you post lies.

@ItsMeMorgue Again the war and whether Putin is a dictator are not related. Nice try though. And the war happened because of 30 years of NATO marching east colonizing Europe, than 2 coups by the US in 10 years the most recent in 2014 in which the US puppet government turned the Ukraine into an enemy nation and forward operating base for NATO.

This was done by first trying to seize the Russian Black Fleet and changing the Ukrainian constitution from neutrality to joining NATO is the only option. All of this was done after a violent coup btw and the new "government" was hand picked by Victoria "Fuck the EU" Neuland".

According to the NYT in 2014 to 2016 the CIA turned the Ukrainian security services into a franchise of the CIA and turned a bunch of neo nazi gangs into the modern Ukrainian military which is how a neo nazi runs then entire special operations command.

Then they declared war on the east and South of the country because the people there would never go along with a government that made nazi fascists national heroes.


And from 2014 to 2022 Ukraine has been at civil war. Oh and fun fact on the day of the "invasion" the Ukrainian army carried out the largest shelling of Donbas since 2014 and that is according to the OSCE.

And that is what I compared to the American civil war.

But you are desperate to make your little fascist dictator seem legitimate even though he is literally the textbook of a far right dictator.



And we both know you are fine with the far right as long as it doesn't impact you personally. Which is why you are totally cool with Zelensky and company.



The only person posting lies here is you. And you are the one supporting Trump's empire, not me.