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White House Advisor Stephen Miller Says Star Trek Is Too "Woke," Wants Kirk Back.

Huh, uh. Says the fascist who would deport Uhura, Sulu and Scotty and prohibit women from serving in Starfleet.

Chekov could stay because he's Russian.

As for Spock... He'd probably have him sent to Area 51 for "enhanced interrogation." 🤭

Then there are the episodes with the interracial kiss, overweight admirals who Hegseth would drum out of the service, Kirk's mind in the body of a woman...

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
There were topics on the old Star Trek that were never touched. Most of them were of a sexual or religious nature. This is why he prefers the old Star, over the newer Star Trek versions.

Must say though, on even the newer Star Treks, you won't hear any profanity either. Yet interspecies progeny was throughout most other versions. I believe only Spock was ever mentioned in the old Star Trek especially as a main character.

Yeah many would call me a Treky. 🙃 Though I'm not exclusive to Star Trek. 😈
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer
There were topics on the old Star Trek that were never touched.

For its time, there were many. Gene Roddenberry sometimes "coded" them differently.

A helmsman of Japanese descent on the bridge of the Enterprise only twenty years after the end of World War II?

A Russian navigator on the bridge during the height of the Cold War?

A female African officer on the bridge?

(Initially) a female second-in-command?

A female (Romulan) commander?

"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" episode? (which touched on racism)

The numerous anti-war episodes?

The interracial kiss episode?

Anti-religion was a prevelant theme (sometimes with computers standing in as "god")

The anti-fascist episode ("Patterns of Force").
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero I did say "especially as a main character".

Even Gene Roddenberry was subject to network censorship.

The religious issues were as well not realistic, purposely!

Again due to censorship.

You want to read realistic sci-fi?

Even Issac Asimov had controversial issues!

And he was mild!

Asimov wrote long before Star Trek existed!
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer

A key difference is Asimov was writing science fiction. Roddenberry was producing it for television. And, yes, Gene's battles with NBC (No Brains Company) and network interference are pretty well chronicled.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero my point is that network TV always did censor. Even before I was born in the late 50s.
Your problem with Shatner is your desire to censor his personal opinion. In the real world not everyone or even the majority agrees without of touch lefties like you.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@jackjjackson I don't know who you are addressing, yet if both of us it's definitely a troll!

Becky and I don't always agree. The proof of that is on this post.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
I think William Shatner, or any celebrity for that matter, is just as much entitled to remain apolitical as the anonymous man or woman down the street.

I think too many people expect actors, sports stars, etc., to take political stands in the hopes their celebrity status will help their cause.

On the other hand, Shatner for decades has helped raise funds for underprivileged and handicapped children with his Charity Horse Show.

https://horseshow.org/about/
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero I am not a fan of celebrities using politics to help anything.

Celebrities should remain politically anonymous!

Keep the two separate.

If they wish to donate anything that should as well be anonymous.

Otherwise it's political leveraging.

I said principles below for a reason.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer
Celebrities should remain politically anonymous!

Celebrities have the same rights under the First Amendment as we do.

Shatner has stated he prefers not to discuss Donald Trump or George Takei and doesn't really want to discuss U.S. politics, citing his Canadian citizenship and Green Card status in the U.S. I think we should respect his choice.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero I specifically said...


If they wish to donate anything that should as well be anonymous.

Otherwise it's political leveraging.

I said principles below for a reason.

I stand by that!
It wouldn't have been public otherwise.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer

Seems the prior comment was edited.

But nomatter. I still stand with the First Amendment.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero yes, and you should know that I often add to my statements. That is a first amendment right as well.

Clarity is always a first amendment right.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer
Clarity is always a first amendment right.

Absolutely.
My earlier comment was directed to you only. The reality is the majority of people dint always agree with you and you being a control freak think there is something wrong with that. Can’t imagine life is working out so well for you with that attitude Wife? Kids? Grandkids? Friends? A little therapy would likely make you life. Lot better. @DeWayfarer
Every US citizen has the same first amendment rights as you guy. @DeWayfarer
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@jackjjackson Guy, I'm the one that says that "no two are alike" the most on this whole site.

Yet you grouped both me and Becky as liberals together. Like we always agree! 🤣
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson
Every US citizen has the same first amendment rights as you guy.

You should linform Kristi Noem of that, too.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer
Though I'm not exclusive to Star Trek.

If you didn't see these, I suggest:

https://similarworlds.com/politics/5449498-An-Authoritarian-Parallel-President-Morgan-Clark-and

https://similarworlds.com/politics/5449460-The-Earth-Alliance-Civil-War-More-The-Political-and-Legal

https://similarworlds.com/movies/sci-fi/5223098-The-Political-and-Legal-Impossibility-of-Prosecuting-Captain

Captain Sheridan REFUSED to follow ILLEGAL orders.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@beckyromero Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. 🤣

I have literally seen every original Star Trek episode ever created unknownable number of times. I still watch it on H&I TV.

I recognized every episode just by the titles even! 🤣
There is a difference between peaceful protest and crime. @beckyromero
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson
There is a difference between peaceful protest and crime.

Yes. And ICE is committing the crimes.
Says the left and MSM. Let’s see what courts say. @beckyromero
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@DeWayfarer

The links to the posts I wrote and suggested were concerning not Star Trek, but Babylon 5.
Nope I did not. I specifically wrote:

[quote My earlier comment was directed to you only. The reality is the majority of people don’t always agree with you and you being a control freak think there is something wrong with that. Can’t imagine life is working out so well for you with that attitude Wife? Kids? Grandkids? Friends? A little therapy would likely make you life. Lot better. @DeWayfarer]
[/quote]

DIRECTED TO YOU AND YOU ONLY

@DeWayfarer
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@jackjjackson
Let’s see what courts say.

Why not just READ what the courts HAVE now said.

A federal judge on Friday ordered Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers to limit their tactics against protesters in Minnesota, as federal immigration enforcement officers confront demonstrators rallying after a woman was killed by an ICE officer last week.

U.S. District Judge Katherine Menendez wrote in her order that ICE cannot retaliate against, arrest or detain “persons who are engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity.”

Officers cannot use pepper spray “or similar nonlethal munitions” on protesters and are barred from “stopping or detaining drivers and passengers in vehicles where there is no reasonable articulable suspicion that they are forcibly obstructing or interfering with Covered Federal Agents.”

The case was brought to Menendez after six people filed a lawsuit in December alleging that ICE officers “subjected them to the use of chemical irritants, intimidation, including by pointing firearms at them, detention, and arrest, in violation of their First and Fourth Amendment rights,” Menendez said.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5693762-judge-limits-ice-tactics-protests/

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.85.0_1.pdf