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MethDozer · M
I dont care whk he is or what his past is. He murdered a woman for trying to pull away from him and sent car rolling down the street in a residential neighborhood after sending out three bullets. Putting other people in avtual danger that he was not avtually in as is clearly seen by every video being presented.
All because "she annoyed him really bad".
Leave his wife and kids alone but this guy clearly isnt fit to be any kind of officer and make rational decisions in the situations.
And lets be real, it isnt like DHS is a great organization known for reasonable and respectable recruits ever. Lets also be real, being ex military is completely irrelevant. If even argue that the amount of ex miliatry filling police rolls is a huge part of the police problem in this country. We treat military and policing as realated and adjacent fields, bht they really aren't.
All because "she annoyed him really bad".
Leave his wife and kids alone but this guy clearly isnt fit to be any kind of officer and make rational decisions in the situations.
And lets be real, it isnt like DHS is a great organization known for reasonable and respectable recruits ever. Lets also be real, being ex military is completely irrelevant. If even argue that the amount of ex miliatry filling police rolls is a huge part of the police problem in this country. We treat military and policing as realated and adjacent fields, bht they really aren't.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@MethDozer i think you missed my point. I don’t want to see other dhs or military prejudged because of the actions of one, such as the right does with trans people
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KunsanVeteran · M
@trollslayer @MethDozer. I could be wrong here, but I think at least part of MethDozer’s point here is that Ross’s military service does not in and of itself qualify him as a LEO or any type of civilian law enforcement official.
If this exact same incident had occurred in Iraq while he was deployed he would have been tried under the LOAC and UCMJ and would have been found guilty for unjustified use of deadly force.
And that would have been a war crime.
The facts appear to be: even if he was struck by the car Ross put himself at risk by placing himself in its path, Ross got out of the path of the car and Good was attempting (apparently successfully) to avoid striking him, Ross had no valid reason to fire at what is best someone fleeing, and Ross’s actions aggravated the situation and raised the threat level of the bystanders in the immediate vicinity.
If this exact same incident had occurred in Iraq while he was deployed he would have been tried under the LOAC and UCMJ and would have been found guilty for unjustified use of deadly force.
And that would have been a war crime.
The facts appear to be: even if he was struck by the car Ross put himself at risk by placing himself in its path, Ross got out of the path of the car and Good was attempting (apparently successfully) to avoid striking him, Ross had no valid reason to fire at what is best someone fleeing, and Ross’s actions aggravated the situation and raised the threat level of the bystanders in the immediate vicinity.
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KunsanVeteran · M
@trollslayer I am making no such claims. Not about Ross. Trump’s obvious dementia speaks for itself.
As part of my service, I ran the Wounded Warriors programs at three different medical groups totaling 8 years. This included the second and third largest USAF Medical Groups. I am well aware of the demons these veterans can be forced to live with day in and day out.
As is typical of tRUMP’s misadministration, I believe that it is more likely than not that Ross was not properly screened for this type of job in the environment Demented Donnie has turned our society into.
But Ross was not in a situation that justified the use of deadly force. In fact, in the chaos and conflict that ICE had precipitated, that should have been strongly pre-briefed to every agent on the scene. Want to bet whether or not that happened? In fact, in everything I have seen & read, I can’t even tell who was in charge of the scene. Who was the Incident Commander?
Now there’s certainly mitigating factors and I am certainly sympathetic to Ross, but tRUMP’s, Noem’s, and others share a great deal of responsibility for what happened.
As always: “You can delegate authority, but you CANNOT delegate responsibility”
As part of my service, I ran the Wounded Warriors programs at three different medical groups totaling 8 years. This included the second and third largest USAF Medical Groups. I am well aware of the demons these veterans can be forced to live with day in and day out.
As is typical of tRUMP’s misadministration, I believe that it is more likely than not that Ross was not properly screened for this type of job in the environment Demented Donnie has turned our society into.
But Ross was not in a situation that justified the use of deadly force. In fact, in the chaos and conflict that ICE had precipitated, that should have been strongly pre-briefed to every agent on the scene. Want to bet whether or not that happened? In fact, in everything I have seen & read, I can’t even tell who was in charge of the scene. Who was the Incident Commander?
Now there’s certainly mitigating factors and I am certainly sympathetic to Ross, but tRUMP’s, Noem’s, and others share a great deal of responsibility for what happened.
As always: “You can delegate authority, but you CANNOT delegate responsibility”
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@trollslayer
The murdering thug is getting a paid vacation out of it and a "badge" for being a member of the killers' club. Countless enablers will make sure that he gets off without any negative consequences. Expect lots more of such murders this year.
I am seeing people say things like he was in ICE or the millitay because he was a demented madman who was hell bent to kill someone
The murdering thug is getting a paid vacation out of it and a "badge" for being a member of the killers' club. Countless enablers will make sure that he gets off without any negative consequences. Expect lots more of such murders this year.
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