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Trump's Geopolitics

This is very British, and I mean that in a bad way. It's a pivot to crude 19th-century style imperialism as practised by the UK, France and others.

The USA has always had a massive influence in Latin America: from the Contras to the Chile Coup, to the Bay of Pigs, etc. The IMF imposed sanctions in regimes it did not like and the IMF has forced privatisations, which have also benefited American companies. None of this was about democracy. It has always been about keeping out 'communism' and, more importantly, having pliant trading partners. Often, it's involved propping up horrendous regimes that enriched a tiny elite and sold the nation's resources to America cheaply.

What Trump is doing sets a new precedent. It's abandoning the pretences of benign neutrality and the tactic of using proxies and directly bombing and invading a country. None of this is about democracy. It's about oil.

I am not a fan of Mafuro, but anyone who knows anything about the country will tell you Venezuela has been in a slow-burning civil war for about two decades. The opposition has frequently used violent means and is linked to Venezuela's pro-American oligarchs.

It's also about intimidating the rest of Latin America and Greenland.

FIFA Peace Prize. Yeah 🤣
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Charity · 61-69
I agree it's about oil, Venezuela is not responsible for the majority of the drugs coming in this country that's a lie.

Chart: Few Cocaine Shipments Head North From Venezuela | Statista https://share.google/RaU0YGvr7IGWJ0JQW

Is it a strategic move to keep alliances from forming between Venezuela and Russia or China, if so and still would be concerning who has the control over the oil.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
It is about keeping the Petro dollar. Venezuela was about to do a Libya and go off the American currency. So long as the world trades oil in dollars the value of the dollar remains high. The minute the world stops buying oil in US currency the American economy crashes. Too much debt. No industrial base wealth is now created by trading paper not making things of value.
This time I agree. Was it just after he said he didn't want a bad guy to step up when he said he recognizes Maduro's VP as the new head of state or before? He doesn't want democracy, but he talked a lot about the oil.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
If other nations do no more than protest then this will happen in places like Greenland And even Canada is in play. Nations need to impose sanctions on America as nations have imposed sanctions on Russia over Ukraine, or America has imposed sanctions on Iran. There need to be consequences that hurt Trump in his pocket and that Americans feel and scream about until Fox news notices..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 You want me to waste words on you, who never has to put up a cogent argument , but resorts to insult or other people poor cartoons. In the immortal words of Billy Connolly "Go forth and be fruitful" (or something like that)😷
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman So how can you expect anyone to be swayed to your side if you refuse to put forth an argument to the contrary
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sunsporter1649 I dont have to win a heart or a mind. I just have to look more intelligent than you. Hardly a challenge really..😷
Elessar · 31-35, M
The FIFA peace prize winner has been working so relentlessly that he's now also nominated for winning the prize for best attacker 🏆 (cit.)
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Burnley123 · 36-40, M

I'm a postmodernist. I believe whatever my chosen media sources tell me.
I have no standards for evidence or objective truth.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Pffffffffff
Vin53 · M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Vin53 No cartoons
beckyromero · 36-40, F
None of this is about democracy. It's about oil.

Well, yes. This certainly isn't about democracy. Nor is it about drugs.

But it isn't even about oil. Surely, even this fascist gang couldn't believe they are going to be able to run a country nearly 50% LARGER than Afghanistan without several hundred U.S. troops on the ground and think the Venezuelans are going allow U.S. oil companies to extract THEIR oil, whether by a puppet regime or a U.S. overseer.

This is about the MID-TERMS.

(And, no, this isn't even remotely comparable to Iraq. Venezuela has not invaded any neighbors, nor attacked Israel, nor used weapons of mass destruction, nor plotted an attempt to assassinate a U.S. president).
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Burnley123
it will be fragile and violent.

Can't see how it will be anything but that. Venezuela is one of the most violent countries on the planet.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero And recent history shows that nobody wants to be occupied.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@beckyromero Nah it's not even that. They can perfectly win the election in the status quo, controlling the media and at most doing voting suppression and manipulation in those only 3-4 key states.
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Vin53 · M
This is what happens when you let a guy convicted with 34 felonies with no jail time run the country.
Everyone knows Trump will get little or no serious pushback. US will claim self defense.
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