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US Postal Service blew $3 billion on electric mail trucks – and has almost nothing to show for it.



Photo Above - If you've seen this truck, please contact the government department of waste and fraud . . .

Who’s making those electric mail trucks? “Oshkosh Defense?” Never heard of them? Never mind . . . you’re unlikely to actually see one of the new mail trucks in the wild, either. (link below)

In 2021, as part of the hilariously misleading “Inflation Reduction Act”, the Biden administration signed a $6 billion dollar deal with Oshkosh Defense to replace the entire US Postal Service fleet with EV trucks. $3 billion has been paid out so far. How are we doing?

1 – of the 165,000 vehicles scheduled, only 600 are in operation today.

2 – Oshkosh built a giant factory to supply the new trucks. But the factory only produces one truck per day. Not a typo – one truck per day.

3 – 14,000 charging stations have been purchased, and 6,600 are installed. That’s 10 charging stations already for each working Oshkosh EV mail truck.

4 – the US Postal Service lost $10 billion in 2024, just from routine operations. This does not include the EV truck fiasco.

5 – the USPS also bought 8,000 Ford E-Transit vans because of the slow delivery of the Oshkosh trucks. 6,000 Fprd EV's sit idle, and have never been used.

Who the heck is Oshkosh Defense? They’re based in Wisconsin, and mostly build army non-combat vehicles to deliver supplies to troops. They have 15,000 workers. This is a REALLY big defense contractor, which might explain how the mail truck contract was steered to them. Wisconsin Senators Tammy Baldwin (democrat) and Ron Johnson (republican) may have further insight. I hope we’re not going to find out that this contract was in return for Tammy and Ron’s support of Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act.

At this point I would respectfully ask that President Trump NOT commission a new fleet of “Trump Class Battleships”, which are certain to become an even worse boondoggle. They would probably take decades to build and require 10 support ships each. Instead, let’s figure out what’s going on with the Oshkosh and Ford E-Transit mail trucks. They’re urgently needed to save the planet from global warming, and also to reduce inflation!

I’m just sayin’ . . .



USPS blew $3 billion on electric trucks – and has almost nothing to show for it

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ArishMell · 70-79, M
What struck me about the image is that the vehicle is right-hand drive.

I take it that is normal for US Postal Service vans, so the driver is not alighting and boarding in the roadway, and can deliver to roadside boxes in the way shown?

E-vans are becoming common in the UK, and my local Royal Mail fleet includes a few. I don't know their make, but do know Volkswagen and Ford both build 1-tonne e-vans for the UK market, so with right-hand drive. So if Oshkosh can't deliver the vehicles...? I appreciate why the USPS would want the Oshkosh, being built in America by an American company, but Ford is at least US-owned.

As for Oshkosh...

Oshkosh Corporation is a purpose-driven innovator, transforming industries with cutting-edge technology and sustainable solutions that move the world forward.

We know that because it says so on its publicity, so it must be right. I've no idea what that sentence means, though. Has its author?

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What does Trump mean by "battleship"? The term was normally used for the enormous gun-ships whose zenith was World War Two, and now obsolete although I understand the US Navy still has one or two in commission. They are useful for pounding coastal installations, but little else, and a couple of torpedoes will send them under - killing hundreds of men with them.

So perhaps Trump really means a modern frigate or destroyer, as long as his is the class name. I've a bizarre mental image of his likeness in carved oak on the prow, as an 18C-style figurehead.


Modern fighting ships in navies around the worlds are much smaller, lighter, and armed with homing-missiles not those 1940s big guns. Those weapons could probably not be manufactured nowadays, the equipment and expertise having been lost.

They also carry far smaller crews than the capital ships needed, perhaps 250 compared to over a 1000; which is a blessing in a grim way, by a far smaller death-toll when sunk by the enemy.

However, unless basically copying an existing design no new warship can be designed and built within at least a decade, partly because the propulsion, weapons, communications and own-defence systems evolve so rapidly that many specifications and design modifications are almost inevitable.

It is though important to consider that China is expanding its navy considerably, and although Russi has scrapped much of its Cold War submarine fleet, has been re-arming its services.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell I don't have an agenda. I honestly couldn't care less as to who wins the war in Ukraine. I have gained a lot of Ukrainian friends because 37 million Ukrainians have fled the country. I hope they are able to stay here in Canada. They are wonderful people. However I also know a lot of people who came from Russia before the war started. Kind of funny I was on a job site when one other Ukrainians struck up a conversation with someone else he thought came from Ukraine. It turned out that the lady he thought was Ukrainian was actually Russian. They had a good chat and moved on. They are just people. Sadly the warmongers in the US and Britain wanted a war and so they started one. The people there didn't want a war. They wanted to just live their lives. Grygorii and Oksana and Dasha and Zlata and Valaria and Yanna and Julliya don't deserve to have their lives torn apart like that.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 The losers in any war are always the civilians, sadly. I agree those people don't deserve it.

I can't speak for the USA under its present leadership but Britain never wanted a war, and is not as military-minded as the USA anyway. I don't know how you think it did.

Putin wanted Ukraine and thought he could take it by little more than an armed coup.

A lot of Ukrainians came here, too.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell You are not aware of the role of Britain? Seriously. Britain has been at the forefront of keeping the war going. After Ukraine and Russia initialed a peace treaty Boris Johnson rushed to Kiev to stop Zelensky from accepting the terms. I don't doubt the average Brit wants a war but the power brokers who actually run Britain certainly do want the war to continue. Funny bit of information Grygorii's mother in law who lives in the same apartment as Grygorii is Russian. She is now a widow. Her late husband was a sailor and caught some disease and died. In the Ukrainian tradition the widow lives with the oldest daughter's family.
kindredks · 61-69, M
I've seen them on a truck being delivered. The old trucks have been in use for a long time. When I see an old truck it is usually packed full with only a small space for the driver to sit. They deliver more packages now instead of letters.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Kind of like the city where I live. They rushed out and bought a fleet of electric buses. Buses that now sit idle in the bus barns. Parts are not available and the buses spent more time charging than they did transporting passengers. The old diesels are capable of running for 8 hours. The electrics were lucky to get an hour and a half out of a full charge. Governments were scammed by the green push.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
should stick with the Grumman LLV's (many are still running, despite being built between '86 - '94). built to last, and cost the postal service a whopping $25k each
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
We have at least one in our area. I saw it a few weeks ago.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ProfessorPlum77 There may be serious production or contract problems in this case, but with the best will in the world an organisation as large as the USPS cannot replace all its i.c.-engined vans at all rapidly, only in a gradual process.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ProfessorPlum77 We only see the gas ones. which is fine. our electric bills are already skyrocketing, and gasoline hasn't been this cheap in years.
This is just another example of the blatant fraud that is never investigated or prosecuted. We’ve spent literally hundreds of billions of dollars on similar fraud over the last decade and BOTH PARTIES are responsible and NEITHER PARTY investigates or prosecuted anyone involved because they are ALL INVOLVED.
I’ve seen one of those working a route in a ritzy neighborhood one time.

 
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