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“If there’s a better way to worship a bank than borrowing $800K on a 30-year mortgage at 6.5% for a 900-square-foot home, I have yet to hear it . . .




Photo above – 1480 E 85th street, NYC. Currently off market. This is apparently an example of the 900 square foot, $1 million dollar home which The Washington Examiner says is absurd . . .

The post title is a direct quote from The Washington Examiner (link at bottom). The reporter is trying to reconcile Americans’ opposing urges: living the dream as singles in an ultra-expensive coastal city, or to indebt themselves for their entire lives for a decrepit pile of bricks.

I suspect the article was penned before Trump started to thump his chest about 50-year mortgages. Sorry, Mr. "Tariffs will fix everything" - I’m not buying THAT one either. Nobody should have to sign up for a loan that only their kids can pay off. Wait . . . my bad . . . that’s what congress is already doing to us with the $38 trillion national debt.

Economists who make WAAAAY more than you and I do tell us: don't worry, be happy. That we can NEVER pay off the national debt ($140,000 per man woman child in America). We will just keep refinancing it. Or do something to make the dollar crash and hope nobody notices.

Back to the “worship your bank” thing. The article suggests that people should just move to where real estate is reasonably priced. And rents aren’t $5,000 a month for a cubby sized walkup. But that would require all the SINKs (single income, no kids) to wave goodbye to friends, relatives, and subsidized government amenities in those insanely expensive cities.

Those amenities are, in course, a large part of the reason our national debt is $38 trillion . . .

This is the point where some urban-dwelling “progressive” begins foaming at the mouth: “red states get more federal aid than blue states!! Grrr !!!”


Um yes, and people in red states earn less taxable income, have smaller mortgages, and don’t require free bus rides, free daycare, rent stabilized apartments, $100 million per mile subway systems to shorten their commutes, or a police force the size of Haiti’s army to prevent mayhem on their rural red state streets.

What’s my point? 50-year mortgages are a terrible idea. Borrowing $800,000 at 6.5% for 30 years is also a terrible idea. Signing up at age 18 for $100,000 in student loans - before you can even legally drink - is a terrible idea. A national debt the size of Mount Everest is a terrible idea.

Trying to solve all our problems by borrowing money is a terrible idea. Just ask any corporation – or citizen – who has filed for bankruptcy.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

If your city is too expensive, move. It’s the American way
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Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
Where I live you can get a whole 1.47 acre plot for a mere $ 1099 000.
No pile of old bricks you have to bring them yourself and you have to build a nice property in keeping with the neighborhood and landscape so it looks nice too.

As for the $ 38 trillion hoping it will even be your grandchildren that finally pay it off is unrealistic unless there is 2 or 3 decades of very good management with very frugal policies that they are willing to impose and standby come hell or high water.

Tarrifs are not a good policy they hurt your own population more than the exporting country, they are collected at the point of entry by the importer.
What it will get you in the long term is less trading partners which is counter productive.
The main reason there is an in balance in trade is because you as a country are not producing things that the other country needs or its population needs or desires to have.
You are in fact also not producing or don't have the capacity to produce what your own population needs or desires anymore either or not doing it at a price they can afford to buy it at.

Bottom line if you did an inventory of the land in the US there is insufficient land to produce food of all types for the current population and that is not allowing for land that has been repurposed for solar farms etc..
So you import, but now you bang tarrifs on it ?????
So your population buys your own food you don't have capacity to produce in the first place. ??????
Then to add a bit of extra pain someone goes and thinks extra taxes on properties is a good idea.
Food prices are already on the rise anyway as there is huge demand globally for it. There is fast approaching a point where the world cannot feed everyone with current methods
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@AthrillatheHunt the top end hits the $ 80 million + level
But money there alone won't get you in you have to be the right calibre of person to be a suitable owner. Demographics 87.5 % Caucasian. I will leave you to guess who makes up the other bit and why they are there
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Avectoijesuismoi sounds like what I said was true (provided we’re talking US) .Burbs of NY LA SF etc..
swirlie · 31-35
@Avectoijesuismoi
all true but only one slight adjustment you can't actually blame Trump for the debt he got that with the job.

Just one slight adjustment required on your end.... and that is, you need to learn how to read.

I never once suggested that Trump was to blame for the National Debt, nor did I suggest that Harris would have done a better job, contrary to your perception of what I'd written.

The only mention I made about Trump was his implementation of a new tax called 'tariffs' which will be paid by American citizens, not the country who exports goods to the USA.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
These expensive cities with insane RE prices are why NYC voters elected Mamdani. Not everyone wants to live in a red state with low pay, few jobs and few amenities.

Government debts are mainly due to decades of undertaxing the rich and corporations.

Under communism the government owns everything. Under American capitalism Vanguard, Blackrock, Goldman Sachs, State Street, etc are buying up real estate. That inflates property prices even in "cheap" red regions.
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@Crazywaterspring you can add me to the list of buying up real estate.
Trying to burden wealthy and corporations with tax gets you nowhere they up and move away there is always somewhere that will cut a deal to boost their own economy.
The communism thing does not work any better there are always some that are more equal than the majority.
Life is the law of the jungle the fittest and the smartest will come out on top.
Utopia does not exist
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
That’s not Manhattan
Everything you write is correct except moving and being smart NOW won’t fix the national debt. What will fix it is a higher taxable GNP and elimination of the trade inbalnce that began after WW2. What will fix that is tariffs and its good results have already started. Tariffs have been collected and the US is operating at less of a trade deficit with more improvement to come. Tariffs aren’t designed to collect money. They are a tool to be used temporarily to correct trade imbalance. Previous administrations haven’t used this too as the debt grew. Mandami says the police will be replaced by social workers. Social workers have traditionally been paid peanuts so is Mandami a genius using this tool to reduce NYC’s expenses?
swirlie · 31-35
Khenpal1 · M
@SusanInFlorida USA has no longer monopoly on anything , so its more like pipedream.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Khenpal1 top 10 things the USA might still have a monopoly on

1 - treasury bill issuance
2 - star trek TV series spin offs on Paramount+
3 - the Superbowl
4 - using the "english" system of weights and measures, instead of metric
5 - filibusters and government shutdowns
6 - red light cameras
7 - porch pirates
8 - lawn jockey statue lanterns
9 - deep fried dill pickles
10 - now the worlds leader in Burmese pythons in the wild!

 
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