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trollslayer · 46-50, M
For either side to claim the other as not being indigenous is absurd.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Moon3624 this isn’t about religion
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Diotrephes this isn’t about religion
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@trollslayer
this isn’t about religion

Of course it is. The Jews believe that the world will end in 215 years so they want to purge the Levant of all non-white Jews and force the Jews who live in other countries to move there. That is why there will be no peace in the area as long as Israel exists. It's way past time for people to face reality. The Zionists have been very clear and open about what their objective is.

So based on the logic of Zionists if I learn Gaelic or Scots I am magically indigenous to Scotland. Cool. I mean at least my family set foot in Scotland and ended up here during the clearances in the 1800s.


Does this mean I get to evict some random person in Aberdeen?
AdmiralPrune · 41-45, M
You say coloniser like it’s a bad thing.
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Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

There was a time when parts of Europe, including Germany, were deeply invested in scholarly work on race. This obsession with classifying people into rigid categories and hierarchies led to an unhealthy fixation on ideas of racial superiority and purity.

The social consequences of this were immense. Out of that intellectual climate emerged Zionism in the 19th century, followed by Nazism in the 20th. (Yes Contrary to what mainstream narratives often suggest, Zionism actually predates Nazism. )

Both ideologies were, in essence, two sides of the same coin. Zionists believed in the notion of a distinct Jewish race (which isn’t factual) and sought to create an ethno state exclusively for Jews. To achieve that, they accepted that ethnic cleansing would be necessary in whichever land they would get whether in Argentina, Uganda, East Arabia, or Palestine. Nazism, on the other hand, centered on building an ethno-state for the so called Aryan race(also bullocks) , deemed superior to all others, which meant removing non-Aryans from Germany.

Because of these shared ideas about racial separation and purity, Zionists and Nazis found common ground despite their mutual disdain. The Zionists wanted Jews to populate their envisioned ethno-state, and the Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany. Their goals aligned in that grim logic.

It is therefore striking that many condemn Nazism for its ethnic cleansing and persecution of non-Aryans, including Jews, while overlooking the Zionist role in this broader historical dynamic.

Before Zionism’s arrival in the Middle East, identity in the region was rooted mainly in local tie people identified by their town, village , tribe or religion, and Arabic served as a unifying lingua franca. Every region in the Middle East was socially and culturally diverse. This is why Middle Eastern Jews initially rejected Zionism and only migrated to Israel decades later, as antisemitism grew in the region due to Israel’s crimes against Palestinians and amplified by civil wars, poverty, and failing governments.




There is also evidence that Israel itself funded terror attacks on Jewish communities in the region to drive them toward emigration, as it needed population growth to counter Palestinian birth rates.

When Zionism entered the Middle East, it brought with it the European discourse of race, categorization, and territorial division based on ethnic purity an “us versus them” worldview. This introduced a profound identity crisis in the region. People began asking, “Am I Arab because I speak Arabic, or am I merely Arabized?” and “Am I Phoenician and Canaanite?” To fill this growing void, Arab nationalism and the Ba’ath Party emerged. But these movements, too, created division and tension, especially among non-Arabic-speaking groups who were pressured by Arabization policies.

Nazism and the Ba’ath Party collapsed, yet Zionism continues to thrive and is widely defended even celebrated.
Even though all 3 come from the same trash.

Ironically, most Zionists deny that Zionism is a settler colonial project, despite the fact that the founders of Zionism explicitly described it as one. They wrote openly about how displacing the native population was essential to creating a Jewish ethno/majority state.

It is difficult to understand how the mass expulsion of 70% of the local population in 1948, followed by their replacement to create a Jewish majority overnight, could be seen as anything other than settler colonialism. From 1948 onward, Israel has also continually expanded by taking more land from the remaining Palestinian territories ( Gaza and the West Bank) Gaza and West Bank are already overcrowded as Israel pushed most Palestinians into them . The ongoing discussions in Israeli media about pushing Palestinians into Jordan, Egypt, or Europe only reinforce that Zionism remains a colonial project built on displacement apartheid and exclusion.
@Moon3624 The 1800s was also a time when there was a cult in the UK enjoying popularity called the "British Isrealites". Basically a bunch of rich mostly wealthy white dudes from the UK declared themselves the "lost tribe of Israel".

So random people declaring ancient ancestry to justify colonization of the Middle East had alot of competing groups some more crazy than others.
Moon3624 · 22-25, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

Yeah displacing a local population and taking over needs a lot of prepared lore and propaganda
So that’s not surprising 🤣🤣

 
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