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How does a 3 cent per mile tax on your electric car sound?



Photo above – some drivers may feel prickly about the new 3 cent per mile tax on electric cars.

Politicians have pivoted from saving the planet to saving the electric companies. And saving themselves. The United Kingdom is implementing a new 3 cent per mile tax/tariff/surcharge on all electric cars, to help make ends meet. (see link below)

The reason? Not enough people are driving gasoline powered cars. And they’re not taking long enough trips. Therefore, gasoline taxes are falling short. And electricity demand is soaring into dangerously high/brownout levels. Politicians say the only solution is higher taxes on EVs.

3 cents a mile doesn’t sound like much. But If this was a gasoline car which got 25 mpg, then the tax would be 3 cents times 25 miles, which equals 75 cents per gallon. Do you get the picture now? People would go bonkers if their gas tax went up 75 cents a gallon. Any US President – if he did this – would see his popularity circle the drain. It could be worse than eggs, bread, and milk inflation combined.

Some people will be okay with signing up for the new EV tax. Actually, they won’t have choice when it becomes law, but some people will actually cheer. They will be happy to have a government GPS-style tracking device attached to their car, which calculates how far they drove that day, and sends the total to Secretary of the Department of EV taxation, to be totaled for a monthly billing statement. Or possibly direct payroll deduction? Who wants to find out at the end of the year that they owe a thousand dollars in Tesla mileage taxes, but don't have the money to pay it? That’s why we have federal income tax withholding in the first place – nobody could afford to pay income tax if they didn’t take it away before we even saw it.

The onboard EV mileage snooping device could earn it’s keep doing other things too. Are you driving too fast? Failed to come to a complete halt at a red light? In a dangerous part of town after midnight, known to be frequented by people buying narcotics? At a local motel at 1pm? If your spouse has a clever attorney, that info could be subpoenaed as part of a divorce filing, no? There is no right to privacy when driving your car. Cameras are everywhere, already.

Some killjoy is sure to point out the obvious. If you want to collect an extra thousand bucks a year from everyone who bought an EV, just tack it onto the sticker price. Right where everyone can see it while negotiating their purchase. Don’t slice it into micro-thin 3 cent per mile wafers and hope that nobody notices.

And in the meantime, start building more electric plants, okay?

I’m just sayin’ . . .


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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
The UK is not implementing a mileage tax on EVs. This is one of several tax raising ideas being discussed in the media prior to the annual budget statement in three weeks time. Unfortunately our largely conservative press likes to present lurid hypotheticals as though they are already fact.

The issue is that a tax escalator on fuel has been frozen since 2011 and it is apparently politically impossible to.unfreeze it so that tax revenues meet the cost of road maintenance. As people generally like roads and not damaging their axles in pot holes, an alternative source of revenue is now an imperative.

Other suggestions include a tax to reflect the weight of the vehicle (a proxy for the damage it causes to the road surface) which coincidentally would disproportionately affect EVs.

If legislation were enacted to require GPS tracking, it would be strictly limited to data gathering for tax purposes only. Our very strict data protection laws make it impossible to expand use in the way you suggest.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@meJess They are, along with a load more cash redirected from general income and local taxation. As I pointed put in my original post, the problem is that these taxes have remained frozen over the past 14 years and have failed to keep pace with inflation and more intensive road usage.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Avectoijesuismoi Translation: "I don't like bikes".

Bikes do not require the same hi-spec surfacing as cars and do not damage that surface, pollute the environment, or present the same dangers to human health and safety. Most UK roads are built over older rights of way that were being used by pedestrians and non-motorised transport for centuries before the invention of the internal combustion engine. It is entirely right that motorists should pay for services that they alone benefit from. The issue is not waste or misappropriation of taxation. The issue is an extremely powerful car lobby that pressures parliament into favouring motorists over cyclists, pedestrians, and public transport users.

Why not tax children for walking to school while you are on your high horse?
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The fourth power law states that the stress on the road caused by a motor vehicle increases in proportion to the fourth power of its axle load. This means almost all the road damage is caused by trucks (lorries in the UK).

These trucks' usage of the roads are, of course, subsidized by regular drivers of regular cars. A fair road tax would be proportional to both miles driven and the fourth power of vehicle weight.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ElwoodBlues so why don't tractor trailer rigs pay about $100 per gallon is gasoline tax?
@SusanInFlorida Because it's easy to fool the public that all vehicles have an equal effect on the road. A $2 trillion/year business has plenty of lobbying power.
joe438 · 61-69, M
Taxing per mile on EVs makes sense. They do as much wear/tear damage to the roads as gas, powered cars, but they’re not contributing to the repair.
meJess · F
@joe438 they are heavier so more damaging to the road
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@joe438 gasoline taxes are not earmarked for road repairs either. that's why obama had to serve up hundreds of billions in "infrastructure repair" for bridges and interstates.
joe438 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida they don’t cover the costs completely, but they are used mainly for that. I just confirmed that with a bunch of internet searches.

https://www.investopedia.com/gas-taxes-and-what-you-need-to-know-5118477
exchrist · 36-40
The money (tax dollars for road maintenance) has to come from somewhere; fuel taxes on gasoline was that source of f money. Tolls helped to acquire the funding now? Per mile tolling pay to use.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@exchrist it was never earmarked for roads. see if you can find a link.
exchrist · 36-40
@SusanInFlorida I’ve not been able to I’ll keep looking but one would expect road fees would be appropriated to road maintenance if not where is that money going?
The reason? Not enough people are driving gasoline powered cars. And they’re not taking long enough trips. Therefore, gasoline taxes are falling short. And electricity demand is soaring into dangerously high/brownout levels. Politicians say the only solution is higher taxes on EVs.

BS.
@SusanInFlorida You're telling me that those are the reasons? Truly? Wow.. that shows you don't do research, or you cherrypick your links to suit your far-right, anti-EV agenda.
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@SusanInFlorida
or you cherrypick your links to suit your far-right, anti-EV agenda.


you nailed it.

Indeed I did. And you base your post on one opinionated rant and ignore the fact that, even if it does become law (and it is not even CLOSE to being so) EVs will STILL be about £1000 a year cheaper to run than petrol/diesel cars.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
REMEMBER ! It’s all about the environment 🧐
dale74 · M
I think we need a ten cents per mile tax on bicycles
dale74 · M
@Avectoijesuismoi well in the state i live in the bicycle trails bus and river rail were paid for out of the highway fuel tax money. None of those paid the tax.
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@dale74 precisely what I am saying if they use the roads like motorcycle, car etc bicycles ought to have a licence fee payable have a proper registration, plus insurance just the same as other road users have to have by law.
I have twice while I lived in the UK still had to claim and s hefty claim because of a cyclist damaging the side of the car.
The next year my premium went up as a result.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@dale74 in my mom's town they built a $2 MILLION bicycle path bridge over the "white clay creek"

the mayor at the time was an avid biker. she justified the expense by noting that washington DC was paying for part of the bike bridge
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
A dime sounds better!

 
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