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Can Zohran Mamdani’s rent freeze in NYC actually work?



Photo above - Steinway tower, one of the newest apartment buildings in NYC. It's so tall and skinny because there's not much land left. 2 bedroom rents start at $5,000 a month. Electricity, water, gas and other amenities cost extra. Hey . . . was that thing engineered to withstand hurricanes?

Whew – that WASN’T a close one. Mamdani wins in a landslide. Your new mayor is a 34 year old socialist with a millionaire daddy. Mamdani won on the strength of his signature policy “rent freeze”. How many apartments will this apply to? Guess. Go ahead - I dare you.

Okay it’s 2 MILLION apartments. Now guess how many people live in the 5 boroughs of NYC. In the meantime, I will get back to my rant.

I totally get the allure of voting for a rent freeze. Even though it probably won’t happen, and if they tried it could never work. But as election promises go, it’s a winner. Right up there building a wall and making Mexicans pay for it, and saving planet Earth with massive subsidies to Elon Musk and Tesla.

But I understand the attraction. NYC is soooo expensive. Even if a Mamdani voter only get a 2 or 3 years of frozen rents before their building falls into disrepair and becomes a complete shithole, they will have personally saved thousands. Ka-ching! Now get ready to vote in 2028 for whoever promises to wipe out all your student loans, and freeze grocery prices. Campaign promises don’t have to be rational. Just irresistible, and fit on a bumper sticker.

There’s a link to Fortune magazine below. Since Fortune is automatically dissed as a tool of capitalism, any socialists and communists may want to stop reading now and spare themselves cognitive dissonance. Long story short – there has not been any time or place in history where freezing rents led to more construction, safer communities, and modern amenities like electricity, indoor plumbing, and central heat. If you find such a place, please post it below in your reply. My advice is to avoid wasting time googling the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, the Peoples Republic of China (during the great leap forward), Venezuela, Zimbabwe . . .

Mamdani has a backup plan just in case he never achieves a rent freeze on those 2 million existing apartments. He plans to build 200,000 new affordable apartments. The price tag for city built/subsidized apartments varies depending which Mamdani speech you read. Since the average cost to construct a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $400,000, building 200,000 new units could cost $80 billion. The entire budget for NYC in 2024 was only $100 billion or so, so this would require an 80% jump in things like taxes, fees, bridge tolls, red light cams, etc.

Mamdani has not said where the new 200,000 units could be built. However, I’m confident some of the 2 million rent controlled units will eventually be abandoned, or burn down, or collapse from leaky roofs. So those sites are a real possibility in the near future.

I’m just sayin’ . . .



Zohran Mamdani’s signature housing policy is widely loathed by economists. Here’s why | Fortune

NYC Housing Market: Mamdani Proposes Rent Freeze and 200K Affordable Units
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Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
Of course it can!
Why would it not, it exists in other big cities
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Strictmichael75 list them
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida it exists in Paris and is possible elsewhere
idontcareok · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida he can't
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 I'm embarrassed for you now....

Paris does not currently have a rent freeze, but it has implemented rent control measures since 2019 that limit how much landlords can increase rents. These regulations are designed to make housing more affordable and accessible in a market with high demand and limited suppl
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster ok! But it’s still controlled
Do what about his so xalked dezls ?

STOP AVOIDING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS IMAGINERY DEALS!!!

WHERE ARE THEY???
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@Strictmichael75 YOU KNOW YOU HAVE NO ANSWER!
LOL 😂
SO EMBARRASSING
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 I already did and you admitted your mistake. Paris does not have rent freeze. You haven't provided any other responses of relevance since then.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 It doesn't have a rent freeze. We've already established that. As far as whatever else you are talking about, I have no idea. Maybe you are confusing this conversation with a different one?
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster NO, it’s you tgat is confused and STILL refusing to and the question on how many countries have signed deals
Hi was talking of VERY many
So once again
PUT UP OR SHUT UP
LOL 😂
HE SAID THE PHONE HASN’T STOPPED RINGING
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 Right right I remember that now. That was a separate conversation, Mikey. And your pal deleted all my replies.

Such a shame too, a very satisfying answer was left but your buddy got delete happy and here we are...
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster I have no idea what you are talking about
BUT YOU ARE STILL NOT REPLYING ABOUT THE SO CALLED DEALS
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 No idea? Well then I have no idea what you are talking about then.

What deals? We are discussing your ignorance of rent control throughout Western society.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster KEEP AVOIDING THE QUESTION
Lol 😂
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 I shall. 😘

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Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@Strictmichael75 so HOW MANY COUNTRIES HAVE SIGNED?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 Signed what? Your committal papers? 😆
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Strictmichael75 do you have any examples where it's worked?
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster THE SO CALLED DEALS THE CLOWN MADE
Lol
YOU REALLY HAVE A GOLDFISH MEMORY
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida Yes!
READ THE ABOVE REPLIES
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Strictmichael75 i did - so there are no examples, LOL?