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Can Zohran Mamdani’s rent freeze in NYC actually work?



Photo above - Steinway tower, one of the newest apartment buildings in NYC. It's so tall and skinny because there's not much land left. 2 bedroom rents start at $5,000 a month. Electricity, water, gas and other amenities cost extra. Hey . . . was that thing engineered to withstand hurricanes?

Whew – that WASN’T a close one. Mamdani wins in a landslide. Your new mayor is a 34 year old socialist with a millionaire daddy. Mamdani won on the strength of his signature policy “rent freeze”. How many apartments will this apply to? Guess. Go ahead - I dare you.

Okay it’s 2 MILLION apartments. Now guess how many people live in the 5 boroughs of NYC. In the meantime, I will get back to my rant.

I totally get the allure of voting for a rent freeze. Even though it probably won’t happen, and if they tried it could never work. But as election promises go, it’s a winner. Right up there building a wall and making Mexicans pay for it, and saving planet Earth with massive subsidies to Elon Musk and Tesla.

But I understand the attraction. NYC is soooo expensive. Even if a Mamdani voter only get a 2 or 3 years of frozen rents before their building falls into disrepair and becomes a complete shithole, they will have personally saved thousands. Ka-ching! Now get ready to vote in 2028 for whoever promises to wipe out all your student loans, and freeze grocery prices. Campaign promises don’t have to be rational. Just irresistible, and fit on a bumper sticker.

There’s a link to Fortune magazine below. Since Fortune is automatically dissed as a tool of capitalism, any socialists and communists may want to stop reading now and spare themselves cognitive dissonance. Long story short – there has not been any time or place in history where freezing rents led to more construction, safer communities, and modern amenities like electricity, indoor plumbing, and central heat. If you find such a place, please post it below in your reply. My advice is to avoid wasting time googling the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, the Peoples Republic of China (during the great leap forward), Venezuela, Zimbabwe . . .

Mamdani has a backup plan just in case he never achieves a rent freeze on those 2 million existing apartments. He plans to build 200,000 new affordable apartments. The price tag for city built/subsidized apartments varies depending which Mamdani speech you read. Since the average cost to construct a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC is $400,000, building 200,000 new units could cost $80 billion. The entire budget for NYC in 2024 was only $100 billion or so, so this would require an 80% jump in things like taxes, fees, bridge tolls, red light cams, etc.

Mamdani has not said where the new 200,000 units could be built. However, I’m confident some of the 2 million rent controlled units will eventually be abandoned, or burn down, or collapse from leaky roofs. So those sites are a real possibility in the near future.

I’m just sayin’ . . .



Zohran Mamdani’s signature housing policy is widely loathed by economists. Here’s why | Fortune

NYC Housing Market: Mamdani Proposes Rent Freeze and 200K Affordable Units
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lasergraph · 70-79, M Best Comment
Price freezes is not new, Nixon did that in the 70s when inflation was getting out of hand, it failed and Carter had inflation even worse. I hand a bank CD that paid 11.5% but couldn't keep up with inflation.
@lasergraph The GOP is using the exact tactics of the NSDAP so spare me. And the NSDAP was also backed and bankrolled by the oligarch class of Germany and the same in Fascist Italy.

So stop trying to rewrite history.

And pretending it is just income jealousy is just childish.

Wake up. You are far closer to be homeless than ever being a billionaire so you don't need to be their free PR department.
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@lasergraph I would have thought that was obvious. A fascist basket case in the USA is a very obvious national security problem.

LOL

Dear Internet Economist,

You treated rent-freeze like it’s a guaranteed crash-and-burn, but you’re dealing with actual democratic politics now:

Mamdani won on a platform of affordability, not because he fooled people but because people are squeezed by housing costs.

His policies haven’t been implemented yet, so your doom-loop "building falls into disrepair”, “shithole city” are speculative fiction, not fact.

Rent-freeze by itself isn’t magical, but paired with increased supply, tax reforms, maintenance funding, it might be part of an affordability regime. You waved away the latter, possibly because you don't want to consider it might actually work.

The real question is (apart from why do you clearly HATE Mamdani...): how will Mamdani deliver? Will he get the state legislature on board? Will maintenance funds be protected? Will supply be ramped? That’s where the policy battle is, not in declaring the whole thing doomed before it even starts.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wildland so the invitation in the top post to provide historical examples of where rent control was a success.

can we assume your lack of links means you admit there are no such examples?
exchrist · 36-40
It’s worth a try it has been done elsewhere with varying success. Personally I’d expect more transit incentives fewer cars(and traffic) garden roofs to lower food prices. And hemp gasoline to lower fuel prices as well as efforts toward heat assistance cannabis is a thermogenic plant maybe 1 plant per apartment
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@exchrist please provide a link to any place where it has been a success, "relative" or otherwise.
exchrist · 36-40
@SusanInFlorida apparently it’s been done only a few times in los Angelas during the pandemic and in Scotland in 2022. I’d thought it has been tried in Ireland in the 1980s and Italy at some point. I’ll get back to you if I can find evidence of those or others. Regardless generally rent freezes are used to cushion living expenses during emergency situations, earthquakes, weather, disease outbreak, etc. . The federal government was enforcing rent controls for those in poverty supported housing and retirees. Is that still a thing?
pdockal · 56-60, M
They already have rent stabilization laws
How do landlords deal with rising costs if they aren't allowed to pass then on to the renters ?

Somebody has to pay

over half of the city's rental housing units are rent-regulated in some manner, including public housing and other programs.
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow another link free rant from someone without any historical examples, as you were invited to provide.

you are a modern miracle.
@SusanInFlorida Cute coming from someone who posts opinion based entirely on ideology with no facts or evidence to be found.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
The problem with NYC is that there is no vacant land to build new housing on, except for Central Park. And Mamdani won't be able to do squat by himself. He has to get the City Council on board and they were all elected as individuals. Will the State support his agenda? The orange traitor is trying to deport him.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
Of course it can!
Why would it not, it exists in other big cities
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida Yes!
READ THE ABOVE REPLIES
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Strictmichael75 i did - so there are no examples, LOL?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Strictmichael75 Prolly need to stick with the spanking fetish stuff. Politics is not your forte
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
We will see how he does.
MarineBob · 61-69, M
Tax freeze, wage freeze, building supplies freeze, insurance freeze
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@MarineBob you won't find anybody signing up for a wage freeze. everyone assumes they deserve a raise, just on general principles. especially union members, who negotiate a 5 year contract with guaranteed "inflation plus more" raises each year
gregloa · 61-69, M
They should freeze him.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
That tall skinny building is a death trap and it will destroy lots of other buildings and kill people in them when it collapses.
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Looks to me like a small breeze makes that needle wobble.
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jackjjackson yes it can. he can outline what he wants to do. there's no law against that. just like there's no law barring him from listing the things he wants to spend money on.

get real. how do you even vote responsibly?
OUTLINE not make law. So you’ve finally shown your dems colors after working so hard to hide them. The keys to responsible voting are reading and comprehension. YOU appear to have difficulty with both in this instance. I do not. @SusanInFlorida
He can make PROPOSALS to the state legislature and then he is powerless. @SusanInFlorida

 
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