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Russia and China to shore up Maduro in a proxy war with the USA.

Giving America a taste of her own medicine, Venezuela will drag Trump into a quagmire. Defensive radars, medical aid, aircraft shipments, drone technology and missiles will pour into Caracas. With Russia is taking the lead, China will play backup with billions in loans to fund the campaign to bring down the greatest military power the world has ever known.

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FreddieUK · 70-79, M

Remember Vietnam?

IronHamster · 56-60, M

@FreddieUK Yes, but we aren't going there so the CIA can move drugs.

swirlie · 31-35

@IronHamster
Speaking of drugs, what does your addiction counselor have to say about you going outside all by yourself these days?

ElwoodBlues · M

Perhaps tRump hopes that starting a war will divert attention from the Epstein files. Maybe he'll attack Canada? Maybe Panama or Greenland? Oh, no, it's Venezuela!!

Trump Weighing Military Options to Attack Venezuela Within Days—Report Nov 13, 2025

President Donald Trump on Wednesday received updated military options for potential operations in Venezuela, including possible land strikes, according to CBS News. Senior defense leaders, including Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Dan Caine, briefed the president on scenarios for the coming days.

. . .

Meanwhile, on Thursday, Hegseth announced Thursday that the U.S. military’s expanding anti-drug campaign in the Caribbean will now be known as “Operation Southern Spear.”

https://www.newsweek.com/venezuela-us-donald-trump-military-attack-war-maduro-11042677

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SchoolBelle · 61-69, F

@sree251 Well, that's deeply insightful, I must say!

ElwoodBlues · M

@sree251 Oh, but tRump HAS been using his Sec'y of War for war! tRump has ordered at least 20 boats destroyed in the Caribbean with about 80 deaths. And maybe six or eight more deaths in the Pacific.

It's getting pretty close to the death toll from Reagan's war on Grenada. Sure, tRump is waging a small slow war against people who don't fight back, but it's still a war.

HotPizza71 · 51-55, M

@ElwoodBlues send him to the English channel,we've hundreds of dingy boat's coming in,with illegal immigrants,can't stop them....

Adstar · 56-60, M

Russia is in no positon to provide large military aid to Venezuela... And Venezuela will not be defeating the USA no matter if China gives them 20 billions in loans..

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swirlie · 31-35

@Adstar
You have no idea what Russia's military status is and you also have no idea what Russia begs for nor to whom Russia begs, if at all. Time for you to get real.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@swirlie

Time for you to get real.

He won't get real, swirlie.

swirlie · 31-35

@sree251
He won't?

OH NO! Call my stock Broker and tell him to SELL, SELL, SELL...!!!

3Dogmatic · 46-50

Meh, if they do, it’s the worst thing they could ever do. Rope-a-dope incoming. Who has more experience and testing and making war than the US? Who will win? Raytheon and Lockheed Martin.

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ElwoodBlues · M

@sree251 Harley seems to be losing market share (blue is the US). I dunno if they still top Honda or not.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/252220/worldwide-motorcycle-retail-sales-of-harley-davidson/?__sso_cookie_checker=failed

Here's what the always iffy AI says:

Honda: Approximately 400,000 units sold.
Harley-Davidson: Approximately 95,000 units sold.
Yamaha: Approximately 60,000 units sold.

I wonder if Honda sells a lot of mopeds or something that would distort the numbers like that.

Completely different numbers

United States 2025. Motorcycles Market Lost 6.5% While Kawasaki and Honda Fight for Leadership
25 October 2025

In the competitive arena, following a positive yearly pathway, Kawasaki was able to reach the leadership, overtaking Honda, with sales improving a huge 14.2% year on year.

Honda lost the leadership and 8.0% of sales compared with the correspondent period last year.

It seems that the victim of the new economic wave in the States is and will be the american icon, actually in third place, Harley-Davidson, which started losing a deep 15.9%

Behind Yamaha (-0.4%), KTM (-23.8%), Indian (+4.9%), Suzuki (-13.7%) and BMW (-10.8%).

https://www.motorcyclesdata.com/2025/10/25/united-states-motorcycles-market/

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

Loans it knows the country will never be able to repay?

The People's Republic of China has considerable experience in that...

IronHamster · 56-60, M

I am all for the CCP wasting its money.

ididntknow · 56-60, M

It’ll be a better world, when America lose world hegemony,

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ididntknow · 56-60, M

@SchoolBelle I’d say there’s plenty

SchoolBelle · 61-69, F

@ididntknow Well, yes, you probably would but could you actually produce any?

That's the thing about evidence. You can't just assert its existence. You need to put it on the table.

ididntknow · 56-60, M

@SchoolBelle just look up, how many regime change operations ( Color revolutions ) America has performed, over the years, most recently, Syria, trying in Russia, tried in Georgia, currently attempting in Venezuela, did it in Ukraine, spent $50 million on that one,
ask Victoria Nuland, America is trouble, if you can’t see that, that’s your problem

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