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Today, one day after election day, tRump blamed republicans' poor showing on the shutdown.

Trump argued polls shows the shutdown, which Wednesday set a record for the longest in history, “was a big factor, negative, for the Republicans.”

This pretty much tells us the voting public blames the shutdown much more on republicans, and that tRump understands that is so.
@missyann Only one person supports a man who is destroying your country and that is you. You have sold our your country and your faith for a life long con man.

CougarLisa · 36-40, F
I think the longest shutdown in history was in 2018... who starved???

I'm a Constutionalist, too. Follow it and everything else will work out.
CougarLisa · 36-40, F
@ElwoodBlues I had stuffed shrimp for dinner Sunday, ribeye steak last night. So, does George Soros pay you enough money as a troll to afford to eat like that???

Don't worry, I won't read your reply...lmfao...
@CougarLisa You ate alone🤣😂😝🤣😂

This past Sunday my wife & I hosted nine more family members for brunch! Our kitchen table only seats about six, but we squeezed 11 chairs around the dining room table!!

CougarLisa · 36-40, F
BohoBabe · M
Think about something for just one second. This government shutdown/showdown isn’t about helping Americans; it’s about politicians choosing illegal (operative word being "illegal") immigrants over U.S. citizens. Full stop.

This is just a lie, illegal immigrants aren't eligible for those benefits.

But this is how MAGA works. The cult is fundamentally opposed to truth. Y'all just repeat whatever Trump says, who in turn is just repeating whatever the Deep State tells him.
It takes 60 votes to pass the CR. Republicans don't have 60 senators.


And the sticking point appears to be around extending the temporary pandemic tax credits for Obamacare. Maybe the democrats didn't get the memo that the pandemic is over. And wasn't Obamacare supposed to make healthcare cheaper?

Whoops

Still, extending the tax credits is worth about $350 billion over the next 10 years. Dems want $1.5 trillion. A $1.5 trillion cash influx into the economy will cause inflation to spike, which will then be blamed on Trump. Trump knows. Libs aren't that smart.
missyann · 56-60
@BizSuitStacy Exactly !!!
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Another strange insight in the frustrations of a man for a world that doesn't excist.

@Kwek00 Very sad but very true!
missyann · 56-60
Perfectly said 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
missyann · 56-60
@missyann The simple fact is you people have proven that if Trump said the moon was made of cottage cheese you would believe him without question for no other reason than Trump said it.

You folks have been proving that since 2016. So almost 10 years.
missyann · 56-60
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I have NEVER supported all of the policies of any administration and/or how some of their policies are carried out and have said many times

I just support more conservative policies than liberal. Even if it is only a couple that are most important to me

You can’t say everyone blindly follows him. Yes some do just like some blindly follow democrats
You mean like this?

@pdockal (1) Tariffs are a form of tax, paid at the border by the recipients, i.e. American businesses and citizens.

2a) Longtime worker at Trump's golf club gets wrongfully deported

2b) Masked ICE thugs struck this American citizen's car, then forcibly dragged her from it. No charges against her though.

Dayanne Figueroa, a U.S. citizen and paralegal, said an unmarked government vehicle struck her car at the 1600 block of West Hubbard Street in Chicago on the morning of October 10, while she was on her way to get coffee before going to work.

"I was in shock and terrified," Figueroa told Newsweek. "Instead of handling the situation as a routine traffic incident, the masked agents, armed in hands, forcibly removed me from my car without questions and without informing me that I was under arrest."

[media=https://tiktok.com/7568614715379780877]

2c) We Found That More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents. They’ve Been Kicked, Dragged and Detained for Days.
Americans Detained: The government doesn’t track how many citizens are held by immigration agents. We found more than 170 cases this year where citizens were detained at raids and protests.

Held Incommunicado: More than 20 citizens have reported being held for over a day without being able to call their loved ones or a lawyer. In some cases their families couldn’t find them.

. . .

“If the officers learn that the individual they stopped is a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States,” Kavanaugh wrote, “they promptly let the individual go.”

But that is far from the reality many citizens have experienced. Americans have been dragged, tackled, beaten, tased and shot by immigration agents. They’ve had their necks kneeled on. They’ve been held outside in the rain while in their underwear. At least three citizens were pregnant when agents detained them. One of those women had already had the door of her home blown off while Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem watched.
@pdockal Your level of misinformation is staggering.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@SomeMichGuy

your entitled to your WRONG opinion
I could educate you but I doubt youll understand the truth
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@DeluxedEdition More Gospel truth rather than earthly politics thanks 🤭
One and a half billion less for necessary things each week because of the shut down, that would only feed the poor. But y'all are pumping the military full of money! War and poverty. You so deserve this ending!!!
Both parties together!
CougarLisa · 36-40, F
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CougarLisa · 36-40, F
EBSVC · 36-40, T
What line in the budget gives free healthcare to illegal immigrants? People keep saying it does all the time. So where does that come from?
EBSVC · 36-40, T
@missyann OK so you’re only talking about lifesaving emergency medicine. Insulin? Really?

It sounds like you’re arguing that we need to let illegal immigrants die in the streets then.

If everything you’re talking about is life saving emergency medicine then yes it should be given to every human in our borders regardless of anything else.

I expect you’ll reject my characterization but that’s all you’ve said and I’m trying to be civil as best as I can
@missyann says
I just told somebody else I look up the actual affordable care act policies were what’s in the budget bill from government sites, which is why I don’t like putting links in here
Sorry, I couldn't make sense of that. You looked up the site but you can't copy & paste a link? Can't quote the relevant text?

There is not one news media in this country that is honest, not one.
Nor is there a politician who is honest either. Sure skepticism is needed for every source.

So how should you rate sources? First, look at the error RATE. If a politician goes on 60 minutes for 28 minutes and tells 18 falsehoods, that's pretty unreliable. Don't trust that politician. Other than falsehoods, politicians will often feed you a misleading set of partial truths. So what's the part of the story they're not telling and how significant is it??

With news media, who publish hundreds of reports per day, look to see if they regularly publish corrections. With that volume, errors will creep in, so see how they handle them. Regular corrections are an indicator of reliability. Does your source provide them??
missyann · 56-60
@ElwoodBlues I am disguised with both sides right now with the shutdown They both lie

I am hoping that republicans will address healthcare and come up with reforms and keep parts of the ACA. It can’t be eliminated, but it can be reformed. Giving illegal immigrants public assistance only gives them the incentive to cross our borders illegally.

I called my congressman and senator yesterday and let them know this I also said that they can keep it all of the ACA if Democrats agree that states cannot give their state money to illegal immigrants receiving Medicaid. I believe they need to give state money to their elderly disabled veterans and their poor citizens. I also said that all of the money they allocated for USAID to go for birth control and for children facing life-threatening illnesses to receive the tear they had to have in their countries instead for example, baking classes for male prostitutes in circumcisions. Congress has to come up with realistic and deficient immigration hearings with more judges ASAP if they expect DHS implement deportations

Democrats need to stop fighting deportation. ICE agent need to be properly trained to not use excessive force and arresting American citizens.is under control. But they cannot be eliminated because they are needed.
We cannot blame all agents because a few are acting badly. Protesters cannot be allowed to attack agents for arresting illegal immigrants as long as they are following legal procedures

I do believe that we have a moral obligation to help people, but that does not mean that we have to let them into our country. Why can’t we offer financial assistance to legitimate groups to reform their own country? The United States is the most charitable country in the world. I know that most of. the churches in this country would donate food, clothing, and other basic needs

There is nothing un Christian about helping citizens within our own country before we open our borders to immigrants
We need to increase wages instead of allowing immigrants to work for less money. Neither side has done anything to punish employers who hire illegal immigrants. One side, lower taxes, which makes it more enticing to hire a wiggle and immigrants. The other side raises their taxes, which is an incentive to higher illegals we need a straight up law that is a high fine for illegal hiring.

There are many things in this country that need to be fixed wages housing jobs ect… but a good place to start
Northwest · M
Think about something for just one second.

Didn't need to. We're not feeding and providing healthcare to millions of illegal immigrants.

Now you should try educating yourself.
Northwest · M
@pdockal

Weather they apply out not they are eligible

Once more: Where is the proof that any money is spent on WIC? Weather you like it or not, the "democrats are starving Americans, so they can house, feed, educate and provide health services to illegals" falls apart, as you continue clinging to straws.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

You've lost you way
Your arguing with me when I'm not disagreeing
Your contradicting yourself
I'm not clinging to anything but facts
Your babbling
Maybe you should proofread your posts
Northwest · M
@pdockal
I'm not clinging to anything but facts

Yet you can't produce a single fact.

Your babbling

More like your projecting.
And it's time for the USA to stop wasting time war mongering with Venezuela which isn't it's business.

Plenty of money for that eh? 🧐
@Patriot96 Bombing Venezuela isn't though. So much for being the party of peace.
RosaMarie · 46-50, F
@BritishFailedAesthetic We need to keep speaking about the real reason. Venezuela has oil and oil wealth. Trump will steal from anyone he can.
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Where are all those philanthropist lefty billionaires. They can feed everyone
@Patriot96 we are not the right which is entirely astroturfed by billionaires.

And leftist billionaires is an oxymoron.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
You are believing lies.
Literally all of this is factually wrong BS.
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