do the dems remember
that unpaid troops and starving citizens is what started revolutions in the past
22-25, F
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ElwoodBlues · M
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues first of all a party donest have full control of the senate unless they have 60 seats. So the republicans cannot pass this bill without some the dems cooperation
ElwoodBlues · M
@Mountainlady16 Sure they can. They could eliminate the filibuster with a simple majority. They choose not to.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues the nuclear option is not something to use lightlu often comes back to bite u
ElwoodBlues · M
@Mountainlady16 Really? How do you know about "back to bite u"?? Since 1806, when have Senate rules NOT allowed a filibuster??
AND. Ending the filibuster is exactly what tRump is publicly advocating, thereby validating my point that republicans can end the shutdown whenever they choose.
AND. Ending the filibuster is exactly what tRump is publicly advocating, thereby validating my point that republicans can end the shutdown whenever they choose.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues lets say the last major use of the nuclear option is when they passed the aca
ElwoodBlues · M
@Mountainlady16 DEAD WRONG!!!
The ACA was passed using budget reconciliation. You know, the same rule that passed OBBB.
The ACA was passed using budget reconciliation. You know, the same rule that passed OBBB.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues no the aca was passed without a single republican vote witb the nuclear option
ElwoodBlues · M
@Mountainlady16 Nope. Senate rules allow one budget bill per year to be passed by simple majority; there are restrictions on what constitutes a budget bill. It originated with the Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1980.
See https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444
The ACA was originally a standalone bill, but became part of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.
OBBB was also a reconciliation bill.
See https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444
The ACA was originally a standalone bill, but became part of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010.
OBBB was also a reconciliation bill.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@ElwoodBlues the aca was the famous bill u have to sign to read whats in it. Shit i was just what 10 when it was passed and i remember that debated
ElwoodBlues · M
@Mountainlady16 I'm quite familiar with the ACA. It was rolled into a budget reconciliation bill, just like OBBB. Read up on the history of budget reconciliation. As I said, one Senate bill per year can take advantage of reconciliation, and it has to be budget related.
I remember when ACA was challenged in the Supreme Court and ruled to be a tax plus regulations on the insurance industry; therefore legal. I remember when tRump campaigned in 2016 to replace it with something better and cheaper that covers everyone; however, no such alternative plan was ever proposed. Republicans could have killed it in any one of their budget reconciliation bills, and they finally hollowed it out in OBBB.
I remember when ACA was challenged in the Supreme Court and ruled to be a tax plus regulations on the insurance industry; therefore legal. I remember when tRump campaigned in 2016 to replace it with something better and cheaper that covers everyone; however, no such alternative plan was ever proposed. Republicans could have killed it in any one of their budget reconciliation bills, and they finally hollowed it out in OBBB.